Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Sep 2006 16:00 UTC, submitted by Sonia Mehta
Apple "I want Vista to be a better OS than it's been promoted to be, but at the same time, I also want OS X to finally receive the public adoption that it deserves. Now is the time for Apple to creatively promote its Macintosh platform with OS X. This is the critical hour, and if Apple is able to take advantage of the uneasy feeling that many have towards Vista, then they could attract an untold amount of new users."
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by collinm on Thu 14th Sep 2006 17:18 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
collinm
Member since:
2005-07-15

don't think apple can get half of the market

everybody can buy an apple machine but very few do it

there are not enougt software, too limited...

on windows and linux you have 23 email client, 47 software to create dvd.....

people like variaty...

the only problem for linux, hp, dell, compaq, gateway don't sale pc under linux

they have fear of microsoft?

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by Square on Thu 14th Sep 2006 18:01 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
Square Member since:
2005-10-01

the only problem for linux, hp, dell, compaq, gateway don't sale pc under linux

they have fear of microsoft?


There are far too many problems with OEMs installing linux then just fear of microsoft. For example what distro would they use?

Ubuntu? then tell customers they have to do things illegal to get multimedia playback

Linspire? Then deal with the hordes of anti-linspire zelots bitching that its not "real" linux

Then you have the issue of 3rd party software, and I don't just mean MS office. When you buy a system chances are it's preloaded with all sorts of ads, stuff like AoL, yahoo toolbar ect. While the lack of these things is a good thing for the customer part of the reason OEMs still sell 299$ PCs is they make money off the advertising space on the desktop

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by collinm on Thu 14th Sep 2006 18:26 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
collinm Member since:
2005-07-15

company have just choose most popular distribution...

it's only a choice like they need to do when it choose to include an antivirus and other software

in Latin America, hp sale mandriva

they only need to do a special release, or include software like real player or add a like to install they software via the web

we don't care about anti-linspire and other zelots... anyway this kind of user don't buy this kind of computer (hp, dell...)

you can continue to have some ads
if this company alreay do it for some country, they can do it for the rest of the world

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by ma_d on Thu 14th Sep 2006 18:30 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

You could simply offer Linspire and instructions on how to get the hardware working in general. The "zealouts" know how to do an install, they just want to know their hardware is really, truly, supported before they invest $2,000.

The point about 3rd party software is unfortunate, but you could use it as a mode of advertisement if you were the first to do it: Sell Linux PC's for the same price without any extra software or ads installed. I know there are non-technical people out there who actively dislike all the crap their PC gets shipped to them with.

Us techies just wipe it and get an OEM disk out.

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by TusharG on Thu 14th Sep 2006 18:43 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
TusharG Member since:
2005-07-06

I dont need 23 email client and 47 DVD softwares to fetch 10-15 emails and for writing 1 dvd in a week!
What really a bottle neck is Cost of Apple machines. Recently i got a new HP notebook for $800 and with same screen size and RAm and disk storage Apple notebook would have costed me $1800 .. I guess u must have got my point?
I'll rather buy $800 notebook and $200 OS... Apple is making huge amount of money by not only selling OS but their main money money is coming by selling hardware and they are not ready to give up that....
But the fact here remains important that most of the apple hardware are "state of the art" ... people who can afford to have apple hardware are not going to stop buying the same ... but they can double the sell of OS by supporting other hardware... Ofcourse the down side is.... support activity in Apply will increase...

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by junior on Thu 14th Sep 2006 19:10 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
junior Member since:
2005-07-07

Could you link us to that particular computer? Thanks.

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by maffoo on Thu 14th Sep 2006 18:48 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
maffoo Member since:
2006-08-19

there are not enougt software, too limited...

on windows and linux you have 23 email client, 47 software to create dvd.....

people like variaty...


I don't think this is the problem. Most Windows users stick with Internet Explorer, and I bet a large proportion use Outlook Express for e-mail simply because they're the defaults.

The average consumer wouldn't have any problem with Safari and Mail if they switched to OSX. Let's face it, most home PC users don't need specific software, as long as they have a decent web browser, an e-mail client and a word processor they would be happy. The only software the average user might need that would cause a problem if they switched to a Mac are games.

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by dsmogor on Fri 15th Sep 2006 23:52 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

That's very narrow view of home market. There are multitude of windows only sw that get's used by all but most shallow home users like:

games (HUGE disadvantage), websites that use active X (lot's for kids, banks), media players that support obscure formats, P2P clients, most the cds spread with magazines, multimedia CDs (4 kids, apps put on audio cd, and like that), VOIP clients, other internet services that need some desktop app (usually only supporting windows), accessory sw (like webcams, media players) the list goes on. Pair this with limited 3rd party peritpherial support and we have pretty uphill battle. The situation looks bad for apple here, even worse for linux.

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by godawful on Thu 14th Sep 2006 19:09 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
godawful Member since:
2005-06-29

and mac's have over 80 web browsers...
http://darrel.knutson.com/mac/www/browsers.html

but people only need one, maybe two.

Edited 2006-09-14 19:11

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