Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 17th Sep 2006 16:57 UTC, submitted by martini
OS/2 and eComStation "OS/2 has many applications that had been created by companies, individual developers and hobbyists. Many of these applications still works under the newest version of eComStation and have demonstrated a good quality. The only issue is that they are turning into abandonware since developers had switched to other platforms, but there is a chance to extend their life with the 'Open Source Long Live Elixir'. Here at OS2World.com we will like to make a call to OS/2-eCS developers and ex-developers to open source their creations. We believe that the software can be expanded for the benefit of the community and allowing a learning experience from the code of these applications."
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RE[2]: Good idea
by djohnston on Sun 17th Sep 2006 21:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Good idea"
djohnston
Member since:
2006-04-11

"Firstly, it probably isn't practical - the source would contain code which is copyright Microsoft (and perhaps even Adobe and others). I don't think that that MS would agree to cooperate when such a release couldn't possibly benefit them in any way."

Microsoft has nothing to do with OS/2. It is an IBM product.

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RE[3]: Good idea
by kleb on Sun 17th Sep 2006 21:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Good idea"
kleb Member since:
2006-09-17

Microsoft has quite a lot to do with OS/2, seeing that it began as a joint IBM/MS initiative. There may still be code copyrighted by MS in the LAN Manager system or the graphical interface, the Presentation Manager.

Of course, it should be possible to rid OS/2 of this code, just as it was possible to rid Mozilla of code that Netscape Communications had licensed from other parties.

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RE[3]: Good idea
by Zoidberg on Sun 17th Sep 2006 22:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Good idea"
Zoidberg Member since:
2006-02-11

"Microsoft has nothing to do with OS/2. It is an IBM product."

Wrong, you'd better go back and study your OS history a bit. OS/2 has everything to do with Microsoft since they are the ones who wrote it. IBM didn't take over writing it until OS/2 Warp 3.0, and even today it still has a lot of copyrighted Microsoft code.

http://toastytech.com/guis/MOS2Boot.gif

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RE[4]: Good idea
by kleb on Sun 17th Sep 2006 22:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Good idea"
kleb Member since:
2006-09-17

Wrong, you'd better go back and study your OS history a bit. OS/2 has everything to do with Microsoft since they are the ones who wrote it. IBM didn't take over writing it until OS/2 Warp 3.0

That, too, is incorrect. OS/2 2.0 was developed mainly by IBM, after the two companies split efforts in 1990. They only collaborated with Microsoft on the 1.x versions. However, since important technology like the Presentation Manager was introduced in the 1.x line, it is entirely possible that Microsoft's copyrights still encumber the system.

(It might also be an idea to ask Microsoft to allow re-licensing this code, as it is clearly very, very old and not useful to Microsoft anymore. Like many OS/2-based software products, this old code is in effect "abandonware" too. As well, Microsoft hardly has to fear an open-sourced OS/2 as a serious business threat. Of course, the GPL would probably be out of the question for ideological reasons, but more liberal terms like a modified BSD license might be possible.)

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RE[4]: Good idea
by flywheel on Mon 18th Sep 2006 13:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Good idea"
flywheel Member since:
2005-12-28

That is not entirely correct.

IBM has always been in control of OS/2 - it was a joint effort.
MS mainly did the drivers and the GUI, HPFS for instance is mainly based on MS patents and it was also MS that created the horrible 5 step installation process for printer drivers, and AFAIK they're responsable for the SIQ.

Both IBM and MS sold their own OS/2 versions, that only varied in the bundled software.

With OS/2 2.0 it became an IBM solo project.

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