Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2006 21:20 UTC
Windows Ars takes a quick look at Vista RC1, and concludes: "Using it as my daily workhorse for two weeks has taught me a lot of things, the first of which is that Vista is doing better than many of its critics are claiming. A day after RC1 was available to select partners, the wires lit up with story after story about how 'Vista isn't ready'. No, it's not ready. It's a release candidate, at best, a late-stage beta at worst. Having actually used the OS for a while, I'm not so sure that the sky is falling claims have much merit."
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RE[3]: Vista RC1 is still better
by blitze on Wed 20th Sep 2006 03:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Vista RC1 is still better"
blitze
Member since:
2006-09-15

Quote "Ok...and you're basing your opinion that Windows Vista RC1 is automatically better than of Linux because of one experience where one distribution didn't work well on your proprietary laptop? Did you try another? There are like several hundred Linux distributions afterall. How many versions of Vista are there? Oh, I forgot, just one."

Now this is something Linux is going to have to resolve. The biggest problem with Linux is that there are hundreds of different versions. One doesn't work so what, are users expected to go through the whole gaumat of Linux Distributions until they find something that does work?

I am testing Vista 64 RC1 and I am testing Ubuntu Edgy Eft 64 and at the moment Vista is more usable.

- With Vista I can run 32bit apps easily.
- I don't have sound support in Vista but I'm supposed to in Edgy but get this, the OS loader has issues with the firmware of my Sound Card so I can't get the ALSA module to load. The sound card is a Echo Audio Gina 3G for anyone interested. I am on mail notification when Echo Audio get some beta drivers into the works for Vista.
- I did an Edgy upgrade from Knot 2 to Knot 3 and now my Ubuntu system is FUBAR. The OS refuses to load and I am left at a command prompt with no system usability cause Edgy Knot 3 can't load tty or some such error of which there is no information about.

I will get a Knot 3 install disk onto my system and see what I can do from that, if it loads, but this is a real pain as is getting the same functionability out of it.

* I compare the 2 because both are non release states and 64 bit OS systems and Ubuntu is from a Linux group that make a user friendly system although I am tempted to try ArchLinux 64. Still, at the moment in usability Vista is definately the better with less PITA experiences. I have had it hard lock and blue screen on me but that was through testing a game on it with beta drivers.

My 2 cents.

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aent Member since:
2006-01-25

* I compare the 2 because both are non release states and 64 bit OS systems and Ubuntu is from a Linux group that make a user friendly system

But you have to realize they are in completely different stages of development though, even if neither are currently released. Ubuntu Edgy is current in ALPHA state, currently actively being developed and not at all considered release quality or even beta quality.
Windows Vista is currently in RELEASE CANDIDATE state. RC means its a candidate for release, the developers and the company looked over it and decided everything is in it and its ready for release, but before we do that, we want some more widespread testing to see if other people start having issues with it.

Its absolutely rediculous to compare the stability of a release candidate with an alpha development-snapshot.

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blitze Member since:
2006-09-15

aent, are you trying to tell me that with a release for Edgy Eft due in October Knot 2 and Knot 3 are only Alpha State releases?

Wouldn't the Ubuntu team be cutting it way short if that was the case?

At least Vista is getting a second Release Candidate and will not be let out onto the public until early next year at the very earliest.

I am more of the thinking that they are at a relatively similar state of development but with Vista it is of a less evolving natuture compared to Linux as when MS gets a solid release they usually sit on it for a while where as Linux continues (Ubuntu 6mth release schedule).

In a word, both a far from ready at this point in time.

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netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

I am testing Vista 64 RC1 and I am testing Ubuntu Edgy Eft 64 and at the moment Vista is more usable.

I have to disagree for example latest nero premium is still not compatible with Vista (can't be installed).There are a lot of other programs like vmware that doesn't run either.

Your mileage may vary but i absolutely need both burning software (wether k3b or nero) and vmware.So i rather prefer Edgy Eft on this one.

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