Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Sep 2006 23:14 UTC
Intel Quad-core processors are only the beginning of what a revitalized Intel has to offer, the company's top executives said here Sept. 26. The chip maker will deliver in November its first quad-core processors - chips that incorporate four processors each - for both desktops and servers, said CEO Paul Otellini here, in an opening keynote speech at the Intel Developer Forum. The quad-core chips themselves will offer up to 70 percent greater performance in desktops and 50 percent in servers.
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The beginning of what?
by deb2006 on Wed 27th Sep 2006 05:48 UTC
deb2006
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2006-06-26

8 cores, 16 cores, 32 cores ... It's nice so hear marketing bla from Intel. As long as only a few applications really support that it's utterly useless.

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RE: The beginning of what?
by bogomipz on Wed 27th Sep 2006 07:51 in reply to "The beginning of what?"
bogomipz Member since:
2005-07-11

Not if you're running BeOS ;)

As shown 07:50 minutes into this demo:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1659841654840942756

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RE[2]: The beginning of what?
by Kitty on Wed 27th Sep 2006 10:20 in reply to "RE: The beginning of what?"
Kitty Member since:
2005-10-01

I'm far from an expert on SMP, but I don't think I've seen anything in that old video that can't be done with any SMP-ready kernel out there.
Honest question stemming from my ignorance: how come every time SMP is discussed, BeOS is brought up as a silver bullet? I seem to understand that its own GUI/window manager was heavily threaded, and that its API encouraged multithreaded development in frontends.
But regarding the CPU intensive parts of a program not written in any OS-specific special manner (let's say the Gecko renderer, or the filters in GIMP) is there anything that BeOS does that is more SMP-friendly than other OSes? I don't know, migrating processes from one core the other to keep the load balanced or more esoteric stuff?
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to satisfy my curiosity.

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RE: The beginning of what?
by Mystilleef on Wed 27th Sep 2006 07:51 in reply to "The beginning of what?"
Mystilleef Member since:
2005-06-29

That's inaccurate. Many applications are threaded today. Even my toy editor runs more than 15 threads. And even if applications aren't, the kernel can schedule processes to run on different cores. The question is not whether applications are ready, but rather whether kernels can take advantage of multiple cores. Today, most modern kernels can.

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RE[2]: The beginning of what?
by ondrej on Wed 27th Sep 2006 10:30 in reply to "RE: The beginning of what?"
ondrej Member since:
2005-09-14

I'm really tired hearing this constant "but there are 500 threads running on my PC !" bs - almost all of them are just waiting, eating no CPU time.

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RE: The beginning of what?
by l3v1 on Wed 27th Sep 2006 11:00 in reply to "The beginning of what?"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

The beginning of what?

:) Well, the beginning of the next marketing campaign, the beginning of the rest of Intel's days, whatever ;)

For you, for us, we'll believe when we see, so it's a nothing-here-move-along effect.

70% more than whatever sounds nice, still, e.g. saying these chips will deliver 70% more performance than let's say core2s sounds a bit, well, worthy of some doubt.

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