Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Sep 2006 13:59 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Linspire In a move that some may have sensed was coming, Eric S. Raymond - one of the co-founders of the open-source movement - has joined the Freespire Leadership Board. Raymond believes desktop Linux is entering into a critical period, noting that historically, users have shifted operating systems during periods of fundamental changes in hardware platforms. He believes the PC vendors' embrace of 64-bit computing will provide desktop Linux a unique window of opportunity, which if missed, may not come along again for many years.
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RE[2]: Clarification
by JeffS on Wed 27th Sep 2006 21:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Clarification"
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2005-07-12

"Business-friendly free software did not originate with OSI. Being a co-founder of OSI does not make one a "co-founder of open source movement,""

No, but the term "open source" originated with OSI.

" when the term "open source" is just a marketing term coined to represent an alternative to the FSF's philosophies that existed well before 1998."

And really, that was (and is) OSI's purpose - marketing - or giving businesses a warm fuzzy about using "open source software" or "free software", or however you want to call it.

Face it, as brilliant a programmer as Richard Stallman is, and as influential his GNU project, Free Software Foundation and GPL are, his going around yapping about "Free Software" typically repells businesses, and many moderate users who want to just use computers to get things done, or for play.

In geek/programmer terms, just consider OSI and the term "open source" as easy to use and transportable wrapper functions around the more prickely Free Software Foundation and the term "Free Software" API's. ;-)

And, once again, I'm not a big fan of ESR. He's an arrogant blow-hard whose technical knowledge/abilities are drawrfed by those of RMS or Linus Torvalds or Larry Wall or Andrew Morton or Guido Van Rossum or Alan Cox.

Nevetheless, ESR is highly visible, and he's a very good writer (he is very good at that), and he's been a constant advocate for open source. Give him credit for that, and Freespire for recognizing ESR's advocacy and writing abilities.

Edited 2006-09-27 21:41

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RE[3]: Clarification
by Get a Life on Thu 28th Sep 2006 00:03 in reply to "RE[2]: Clarification"
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2006-01-01

Yes, I'm aware that OSI coined the term "open source." However starting OSI and starting the "open source movement" are different things, because the latter is just a marketing term for something that predates 1998. If I coined the term snafflebleur to mean "open source" and people started calling it "snafflebleur" I wouldn't have started the movement.

It's not a matter of disliking ESR, it's a matter of differentiating between what ESR was part of and what the summary suggests. It's like Al Gore being credited with inventing the Internet. I certainly don't respect Eric, because quite honestly I think he's a faker whose technical skills are dwarfed by a CS intern, and reading his book The Art of UNIX Programming only reinforced that, but I can keep my opinion of him distinct from history.

Being an Internet cheerleader just isn't important for the board of a business. If anything his more nutty positions--that I tend to ignore because they're insignificant to me--make him a target for derision by the mainstream. However he isn't highly visible outside of a comparatively small realm. It's not 1999 anymore. You certainly won't find CNN Money talking about this the way they would Eric Schmidt joining Apple's board of directors.

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