Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Sep 2006 15:08 UTC, submitted by Dan Warne
Windows "One of the more questionable tactics that Microsoft has implemented in Vista is to automatically overwrite any existing MBR during the installation process without asking if you mind or giving you an option to back up. Microsoft says that the Windows installation system can't intelligently interrogate an existing non-MS MBR, although such features are quite common in the install routine for other OSes."
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by PJBonoVox on Fri 29th Sep 2006 22:03 UTC
PJBonoVox
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2006-08-14

I've had quite a few Linux distros in the past that have hosed my boot sector, but I agree it is extremely annoying practise on behalf of MS.

It forces you to install Windows XP before any other operating systems, and that in itself is a pain.

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by hal2k1 on Fri 29th Sep 2006 23:22 in reply to "Well..."
hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//I've had quite a few Linux distros in the past that have hosed my boot sector, but I agree it is extremely annoying practise on behalf of MS.

It forces you to install Windows XP before any other operating systems, and that in itself is a pain.//

I have found one way to compensate for this type of bad behaviour by Microsoft OSes.

If, after you re-installed Windows, you boot a PCLinuxOS livedCD (and I'm sure some others would do as well), you can use the PCLinuxOS Control Centre to re-write the MBR. This process will cater for your older install(s) of Linux distribution(s) as well as catering for your freshly-installed Windows.

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by growchie on Sat 30th Sep 2006 06:48 in reply to "RE: Well..."
growchie Member since:
2005-07-07

As far as i can understand it will be impossible to boot vista after overriding the mbr.

"It also argues that an “official” Vista MBR is required for security features — such as measured boot, which works with Trusted Platform Module (TPM)-enabled chips to check that the OS hasn’t been hacked or altered each time it boots — to work correctly."

Thus will make dualbooting harder if not even impossible using 3th party boot loaders. And that is definitely anticompetative move. In theory one could install grub on a partition, and set the linux partition to be active. But i don't know if it will be possible to boot vista that way using grub because the data about the active partition is stored on the mbr and thus it might fail 'official vista mbr test' on startup... sort of.
As for linux it has partition encryption for ages. The fact that some of you don't know about it doesn't mean that it does not exist. In fact you could have bitlocker like features right now with XP or linux using truecrypt, and linux has its own 'cryptoloop' too.

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