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Windows Microsoft will release just one more build of Windows Vista for testing before the code goes gold, said Brad Goldberg, the general manager for the Windows client business group. That build will be made available to a limited group of between 50000 and 100000 testers in October, and follows the interim Vista build that Microsoft released on Sept. 22. Elsewhere, people noticed that Java applications use the standard (effect-less) Aero interface, instead of the finacy shiny bling-bling Aero Glass.
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Can't have it both ways
by blitze on Sat 30th Sep 2006 05:26 UTC
blitze
Member since:
2006-09-15

And in my honest opinion, I would prefer to see Vista move away from the DOS days of MS computing.

Microsoft might or should develop a WINE environment for Vista to push all the older programs through and leave the OS operating under a modern API.
Then those who want compatability have it but those who move with the times get a lean and mean OS current for the hardware they run it on.

I'm sick of people bitching about not being able to run DOS based programs on Vista. Want to run DOS programs, then load up DOS as an OS. Get over it. Win16 should also be sent to the scrap heap of time as well.

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RE: Can't have it both ways
by CPUGuy on Sat 30th Sep 2006 14:25 in reply to "Can't have it both ways"
CPUGuy Member since:
2005-07-06

Building a "WINE environment" wouldn't make sense.

All WINE is, is a re-implementation of the Win32 API. Windows already has that.

Win32 does need to be removed from the main system and then virtualized, though, so as to not effect anything except what is contained in the virtualized environment.
I'll bet that they can even get this done without having to load up an entire version of Windows and do it much more seamlessly than was done for OSX and classic mode.

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RE: Can't have it both ways
by rcsteiner on Mon 2nd Oct 2006 15:48 in reply to "Can't have it both ways"
rcsteiner Member since:
2005-07-12

I'm sick of people bitching about not being able to run DOS based programs on Vista. Want to run DOS programs, then load up DOS as an OS. Get over it. Win16 should also be sent to the scrap heap of time as well.

Hey, I can use both types of programs under OS/2, which isn't even a Microsoft OS. IBM was able to create a DOS virtual machine without Microsoft's help that actually worked without having to sacrifice their OS's 32-bit architecture, and I still find programs like NeoPaint and Visio 4 to be extremely useful.

I think that it's sad that MS failed to create a decent VDM for their NT line because it removes some useful options from Windows users that they might otherwise have.

I also think it's sad that folks like you seem to judge software by the APIs it uses rather than the actual functionality it possesses.

On the other hand, software companies love folks like you -- you help to drive the upgrade bandwagon, and that's what Microsoft's dropping of DOS support was all about.

Those who believe that the bloat in Windows is somehow related to "backwards compability" are falling for the party line. That isn't the reason, believe me...

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