Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Oct 2006 22:06 UTC
Games "Yes, it's true. It's not made out of wood, it's not behind bullet-proof glass at the Tokyo Game Show - it's a real live PS3 and we're really playing it. The two Sony reps that were kind enough to bring us the machine brought it in a bag, popped it out and placed it on our table. We connected it to our TV and we were away. Forget any dev-kit speculation and empty cases. PS3 is real and it works brilliantly."
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RE[2]: Stiff competition now
by Don Grayson on Wed 4th Oct 2006 02:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Stiff competition now"
Don Grayson
Member since:
2006-01-01

Yeah, cause the GameCube had soooo much market.

The Wii is a novelty console. Practically a WebTV with better games.

The facts are that Microsoft and Sony will dominate the market with high profile games, Nintindo will find a comfortable niche and release a bunch of new Mario games. Wow, deja vu.

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RE[3]: Stiff competition now
by GregV on Wed 4th Oct 2006 03:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Stiff competition now"
GregV Member since:
2005-07-06

Dude, I wasn't trying to be serious :/
But funny story, did you hear that Nintendo is making a new Super Smash Bros. game for Wii?

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RE[3]: Stiff competition now
by Fransexy on Wed 4th Oct 2006 02:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Stiff competition now"
Fransexy Member since:
2005-07-29

"Yeah, cause the GameCube had soooo much market.

The Wii is a novelty console. Practically a WebTV with better games.

The facts are that Microsoft and Sony will dominate the market with high profile games, Nintindo will find a comfortable niche and release a bunch of new Mario games. Wow, deja vu."


Nintendo Wii is for people that want the old concept of console, switch on and play on fun games without complications; not like other that you must to learn the manual to play the game, that have superb graphics but the gameplay is gone and the excesive detailed and fastest 3d worlds cause annoying

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Don Grayson Member since:
2006-01-01

Nintendo Wii is for people that want the old concept of console, switch on and play on fun games without complications; not like other that you must to learn the manual to play the game, that have superb graphics but the gameplay is gone and the excesive detailed and fastest 3d worlds cause annoying

So you're saying that it's impossible to have a game with great graphics and great gameplay as well? Bull I say.

Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War, Homeworld 2, Far Cry, Half-Life 2, FEAR. All great PC games with cutting edge graphics, some of which (Far Cry esp.) are still more than most computers can handle.

On the PS2 the best games were just starting to be released. I point to God of War and Shadow of the Colossus.

Eyecandy and gameplay do mix.

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RE[4]: Stiff competition now
by MORB on Wed 4th Oct 2006 08:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Stiff competition now"
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

"fact
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth."


I wonder how you can proclaim that something that haven't yet happened is a fact.

Not that I care in any way (really, I don't. I only focus on games, I don't care on what console they run. Consoles are the wrong thing to focus on), but it always irritate me when someone tries to give his opinion more weight by portraying them as facts.
Especially when it's about something that could happen or not in the future.

/This was this morning's random rant, carry on

Edited 2006-10-04 08:36

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RE[5]: Stiff competition now
by Valhalla on Wed 4th Oct 2006 11:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Stiff competition now"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

in my humble opinion, the PS3 will domintate the console market in the coming years, since it will dominate the japanese console market. and if history shows anything, it's that if you win the battle in japan, you also win it in the west.

all the big japanese players (with the obvious exception of Nintendo) stand firmly behind the PS3 and will place their best efforts there. Square/Enix, Konami, Capcom, Namco and of course Sony themselves will focus on the PS3 platform. most of their big franchises like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Virtua Fighter etc are already in the works.

given that the japanese market is very loyal to native brands, XBox360 seems to destined fail there just as the XBox did before. despite making a much better effort this time by signing ex Square employees to create exclusive RPG's for 360 in an attempt at japanese market penetration.

that leaves the WII, which is the system I'm really rooting for. being a self-confessed Nintendo fan, my hopes are not exactly objective. that said, I believe the WII can carve a nice niche with it's new controllers and Nintendo's long time commitment to playability over graphics. not enough to cause PS3 any real competition, but hopefully enough to attract serious 3rd party support this time around.

go WII!

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RE[3]: Stiff competition now
by Cymro on Wed 4th Oct 2006 12:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Stiff competition now"
Cymro Member since:
2005-07-07

> Yeah, cause the GameCube had soooo much market.
> The Wii is a novelty console. Practically a WebTV with better games.

In case you hadn't noticed, the Wii is a very different console to the GameCube. Yes, the GC was a disaster but marketshare is misleading. For a long time the GC's sales were comparable to the Xbox, but it wasn't attractive enough to developers. It had neither the huge base of the PS2 or the power or features of the XBox. And what else was there to distinguish it?

The Wii really does offer something different and if they get it right, it could succeed in the same way that the DS has. Something that battle with the PSP has shown how things have changed.

Playing any one of the many WW2 FPS games, however flashy the graphics, cannot live up to playing those games 2 generations of console ago. It's the law of diminishing returns.

The Wii could turn out to be the first Apple Newton - a brilliant, innovative device with a big achilles heel. But what if it turns out to be the Nintendo DS?

Edited 2006-10-04 12:22

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Don Grayson Member since:
2006-01-01

I am all for the Wii being successfull. I just don't see it getting major market share compared to the XBox360 and PS3.

To be honest though, I am more than creeped out by the fact that the Wii wants a 24/7 internet connection and turning it 'off' just puts it into hybernate mode. What does Nintendo need that kind of access for?

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