Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Oct 2006 22:08 UTC
Xandros Here is OSNews' review of Xandros Desktop Home Edition Premium version 4.0 (a mouthfull). Xandros Systems was so kind as to provide OSNews with the top of the line version of their product, which includes, among other things, complete copies of Versora Progression Desktop, CrossOver Office, and various non-Free drivers and utilities. Read on for the complete review.
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Activation.
by egon_spengler on Fri 6th Oct 2006 04:35 UTC
egon_spengler
Member since:
2005-11-20

Xandros does indeed make Windows refugees feel quite at home. They even include Activation. I picked Xandros over Lindows for my mother's WinME machine OS replacement, found out about the Activation, and immediately returned the product for refund.

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RE: Activation.
by pandronic on Fri 6th Oct 2006 06:19 in reply to "Activation."
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

... found out about the Activation, and immediately returned the product for refund.

I really don't get this ... Why would you dismiss a perfectly good product because of activation?

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RE[2]: Activation.
by Troels on Fri 6th Oct 2006 09:28 in reply to "RE: Activation."
Troels Member since:
2005-07-11

Because he feel it is wrong and refuse to support the companies who implement such features? I think it is nice to see someone put their money where their mouth is for a change, instead of the many who just moan without doing anything.

If everybody who grumble about the Windows XP activation scheme and the WGA scheme actually voted with their wallet instead of simply grumbling, then it is not entirely unlikely that they would have taken it out.

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RE[2]: Activation.
by sbergman27 on Fri 6th Oct 2006 13:34 in reply to "RE: Activation."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""I really don't get this ... Why would you dismiss a perfectly good product because of activation?"""

I can understand the sentiment. I used to have to work with software that required activation. In fact, I still do, but not nearly as often.

A significant amount of time (time that my client was paying for) went into activation, registration... and the inevitable *problems* with activating and registering. (When things go wrong, and they do, it can take *hours* to get the problem resolved and the program "activated" so that the customer can start using the thing that they have *ALREADY PAID FOR* and are now paying more for, by the hour, in support time!)

The companies requiring the registration are saying, in a rather explicit fashion, that they care more about the possibility that someone might steal from them than they do about inconveniencing their own customers.

So, while I find the concept of "activation" distasteful, I also have purely practical reasons for disqualifying any product that requires it... *if* I have an alternative.

As it happens, right at this moment I have a client that I set up with software that requires activation. I registered and the activation key was supposed to have been emailed to me two days ago. It wasn't. Time to get on the horn and get the company, which in this case sells accounting software, to cough one up.

I shouldn't be upset, I suppose. It's all billable time...

Edited 2006-10-06 13:35

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RE[2]: Activation.
by egon_spengler on Fri 6th Oct 2006 15:34 in reply to "RE: Activation."
egon_spengler Member since:
2005-11-20

Because I paid for the program and the activation is an insult to me that I refuse to accept. Her machine currently runs Freespire. The only thing they have is an EULA left over from its Lindows roots.

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RE: Activation.
by Adam S on Fri 6th Oct 2006 13:21 in reply to "Activation."
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

This is really lame. Xandros is commercial software. If you think you're being tracked and refute that, fine. If your beef is with commercial software, you shouldn't have been using WinME. But if you don't like activation in general, then I submit that you're being suspicious -- are you a thief? Why is activation bad?

Either go for free software, or accept that people who sell legal commercial software have a right to protect their product.

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RE[2]: Activation.
by twenex on Fri 6th Oct 2006 14:54 in reply to "RE: Activation."
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

There are two facets to this. Firstly, why should people have to "activate" a product they've already paid for? Would you accept Toshiba coming to your house to check whether you're only viewing legally-obtained DVD's on their player you just bought? Or Epson coming to "activate" your printer, or to check that you've not been printing off copies of "Pride and Prejudice"? No? I sure as hell wouldn't.

Secondly, why should customers trust companies who don't trust their customers? It's not as if they're whiter than white. In fact in their quest to "make money" they will do things that are unethical, immoral, and illegal, quite happily, and quite often. Check the recent news stories on Enron, Apple, HP and Microsoft for evidence.

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RE[2]: Activation.
by egon_spengler on Fri 6th Oct 2006 15:38 in reply to "RE: Activation."
egon_spengler Member since:
2005-11-20

I paid completely legitimate US currency for a product, and then activation is required to fully use this product in its intended way. No, I refuse. And I submit that your implication that I am a thief is uncalled for. Either accept that something I paid for should work fully, or I get my money back.

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