Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Oct 2006 14:13 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE OpenSSE 10.1 'remastered' has been released. "This release combines the 10.1 GM and all online updates that we have released for 10.1 so far, including libzypp, which should make the installing and working experience much smoother for everyone. We have created new CD ISO images and supplied delta ISOs from the goldmaster. The non-OSS DVD images will show up next week, we had to retract and will remaster. If you are running SUSE Linux 10.1 already, there is no need to download these images at all. Just do an update from our update repository to get all our security updates. This remastered media are useful for new installations."
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Use Smart for package management
by Xaero_Vincent on Fri 13th Oct 2006 16:37 UTC
Xaero_Vincent
Member since:
2006-08-18

Pretend YaST doesn't include package management features and use Smart instead. You'll have a much better SUSE experience that way. YaST is a fantastic control panel but sucks donkeys at package management.

Smart reads repository data at least 100 times faster than YaST, Suse's version comes with several 3rd party repositories by default. I've only needed to add a few more channels to access everything. It rarely complains about any broken dependencies when doing a system-wide update and the CLI and GUI interfaces are streamlined for superior usability.

Just my two cents.

Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

"YaST is a fantastic control panel but sucks donkeys at package management."

Very true, and that has always been the case. That is why I have been for years a great supporter of apt4rpm and now Smart as well. It is sad, though, that apt must be "phased out". It is silly internal "politics" and they might lose a customer here.

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elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Pretend YaST doesn't include package management features and use Smart instead. You'll have a much better SUSE experience that way. YaST is a fantastic control panel but sucks donkeys at package management.

Yast in 10.1 isn't bad if you uninstall zmd. With that monster removed, Yast operates in the same old manner it always did, which means it's a reasonably good package manager. I actually prefer it to Smart because I like a little better granular control over dependencies, Smart generally does a good job but when it can't work one out it simply uninstalls or downgrades packages, not always what you want.

In 10.2 alpha, Yast is actually much faster than previously (again, with zmd removed), particularly when refreshing sources etc., plus there's even feedback now as to what it's doing, instead of sitting with a blank screen making you wonder if it's crashed or not.

Still, you can't really go wrong with either one.

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suslik Member since:
2005-07-27

Yast in 10.1 isn't bad if you uninstall zmd.

Wow! I thought my RPM system would die if I do that...

Than I punched in:
rpm -e libzypp-zmd-backend zmd zmd-inventory suseRegister rug zen-updater

And, adding sources to Yast works again! I get through to package manager in under a minute! Wow! This "fix" should be standard fare for any new OpenSuse install. Thx.

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