Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 17th Oct 2006 01:51 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption Softpedia posted today a small review of three anti-virus software that are free to use, complete with screenshots. Consider using Microsoft's or Adaware's anti-spyware utilities too to keep your XP healthy.
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RE: Anti-virus testing
by bytecoder on Tue 17th Oct 2006 03:16 UTC in reply to "Anti-virus testing"
bytecoder
Member since:
2005-11-27

The problem is, these are the number of known viruses detected. It doesn't matter how many you can detect, but how many you can't. Simply put, the entire concept of "anti-virus" software is ridiculous: would you secure a bank by by waiting for someone to break in and fixing it?

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v RE[2]: Anti-virus testing
by Fuji257 on Tue 17th Oct 2006 03:44 in reply to "RE: Anti-virus testing"
RE[3]: Anti-virus testing
by mebarg on Tue 17th Oct 2006 05:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Anti-virus testing"
mebarg Member since:
2006-09-22

i use win xpsp2 all day....
only the windows firewall...
firefox for navigate, never open atachs from people i dont know.
never go to pages i dont know, and i navigate a lot.
i donwload from respected places with cuality material.
and for the last resort i have a ghost image...

its simple and complicated at the same time...
i educate the others that use my pc not to use ie...

maybe i am lucky!! ;)

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RE[3]: Anti-virus testing
by Ford Prefect on Tue 17th Oct 2006 08:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Anti-virus testing"
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

Wake up, there are also people out there who *really* use Linux at work (and if they play games, for these too).

Every time I have to use Windows on a friend's machine, I kinda get lost as I don't remember it any more.

I understand your experiences, but you shouldn't make conclusions about others too fast.

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RE[3]: Anti-virus testing
by bytecoder on Tue 17th Oct 2006 12:48 in reply to "RE[2]: Anti-virus testing"
bytecoder Member since:
2005-11-27

I think you missed my point. I'm not trying to brag, because even linux/BSD/whatever are vulnerable to viruses, even if they just affect user data (which is arguably worse than just the OS). My point is, software needs to be built to minimize the damages that viruses and friends can cause, either by stopping programs from modifying data that the user hasn't given them access to or by securing software using higher level languages.

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RE[2]: Anti-virus testing
by Soulbender on Tue 17th Oct 2006 08:03 in reply to "RE: Anti-virus testing"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"It doesn't matter how many you can detect, but how many you can't."

Actually, it is how fast you can detect new viruses that is important. If you can, or can not, detect thousands of boot sector viruses from 1989 isnt all that important.

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RE[2]: Anti-virus testing
by rcsteiner on Tue 17th Oct 2006 15:28 in reply to "RE: Anti-virus testing"
rcsteiner Member since:
2005-07-12

Virus scanners are not just signature scanners -- they also use heuristic algorithms to try and detect suspicious patterns of instructions.

That means they sometimes CAN detect unknown virus or trojan code. :-)

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RE[3]: Anti-virus testing
by bytecoder on Tue 17th Oct 2006 21:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Anti-virus testing"
bytecoder Member since:
2005-11-27

That may work some of the time, but there are still an infinite number of ways to get around this. The only real way to stop viruses is to contain the possible damage and to improve the way people develop software.

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RE[2]: Anti-virus testing
by AlexandreAM on Tue 17th Oct 2006 15:43 in reply to "RE: Anti-virus testing"
AlexandreAM Member since:
2006-02-06

The best analogy would be: Would you secure a bank by watching how someone broke inside other banks and fixing it in yours ? Hell Yes!

Anti Virus are not 100% secure technology. But they sure help those who need it. Fortunately I barely use my computer at internet with windows (mostly games, you know: offline ones), but I recognize that it is a great addition to the toolchain of those who need it.

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