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"let's all take a step back for a moment."

No need for one , you know whats what or you dont. You obviously dont.

cajunman4life I personnaly dont like readings your lies and pathetic qualification of what I say and added personnal insults , I am not making comments as you put it I am just offering the truth , and the reality of things.

"Now, allow me to take a more "academic" approach"

If thats an academic aproach , The academy in your country are in serious trouble.

"(after all, BSD started out in the acadmeic world)"

Bell labs , UNIX V6 , are considered an acadmy ? nice ...

"Personally, I don't feel one is better than the other. "

I guess cajunman4life feelings is not an academic quality I would regard as having too much value , personnal feeling are highly subjective and differently quantifed from one another.

"While logically the BSD license gives you more "freedom" "

If your logic is flaud and rotten , yes , ok I would agree BSD offer more freedom Because it enable the closing of the source and remove access to the software after someone made a derivative and decided to close it to all others. Otherwise Open Source logic and spirit is never going to be in agremment with somthing that close the source and acces to a software.

"you can do whatever you want"

I would really love to see for one of you to take a closed derivative and do what you whant with it legally. But no , derivative are not to be mentionned in your do what you whant world.

"not whatever your "freedom giving" license says you can do"

The GPL dont put restriction on the derivative as they are the same as the original , its not a traitor license everyone can really do whatever they whant with it , there is no one who is going to say : hey its my derivative you cant do this I own it, because then they would nullify there use of the entire GPL software ever produced or about to be produced. Defense of rights and freedom is the right and moral thing to do.

"I'm certainly not bashing the GPL"

No , your lying about it and distorting the truth to fit your illogical views, its worst.

"I just feel that the BSD license provides more "freedom" to allow you to do *whatever* you want. "

Again with feeling , as soon as you can put words , definition and truthfull values behind your feelings then I will consider them as a valid argument otherwise all I can say is for now there crap.

"No doubt you'll respond, probably calling me an idiot or a "theif by association""

You absolutely got that right and then some more ... because thats what you and your friends are , period.

"but truth be told"

You can start anytime , telling the truth , I aint got nothing forcing you to lie time after time after time.

"I'm stating an opinion"

NO an Opinion would be :" Personnaly even do your right I prefer BSD and the BSD license as thats what I like"
Thats a truthfull Opinion.

" much like you."

Sorry , I keep my opinion for myself , as they may be twisted in order to make me look like a fool , ( hey , it happened in the past ) , now I stick with reality and the truth.

- Moulinneuf