Linked by Ioan-Alexandru Lazar on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 14:58 UTC
Windows Among the few things I'm proud of in my life, not having had contact with Windows when I first "met" a computer is somewhere around the top. Indeed, the first computer I used ran Unix, and I have been using Unices myself for some time.
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RE: Proud?
by fsckit on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 15:40 UTC in reply to "Proud?"
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2006-09-24

Of course there is. I, myself, had XENIX on my first computer and yes I take some pride in the fact that I had to actually RTFM and learn to use a computer rather than the point,click,pray approach most people are forced into when starting with Windows.

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RE[2]: Proud?
by Bending Unit on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 15:44 in reply to "RE: Proud?"
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No it isn't. I loathe that kind of elitism.

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RE[3]: Proud?
by fsckit on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 15:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Proud?"
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That is not elitism. Please learn what the word means before mindlessly spitting it at people. I'll give you some extra help on this one.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elitism

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RE[3]: Proud?
by backdoc on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 17:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Proud?"
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I think what he is trying to say that learning the 'hard way' is a good experience because you are forced to understand more. That extra experience pays dividends later. It's a rough way to start, but like it or not, you get an edge because of it.

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RE[2]: Proud?
by Lambda on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 15:46 in reply to "RE: Proud?"
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2006-07-28

Of course there is. I, myself, had XENIX on my first computer and yes I take some pride in the fact that I had to actually RTFM and learn to use a computer rather than the point,click,pray approach most prople are forced into when starting with Windows.

If you're going to go down that path then I suggest you have nothing to be proud of. After all, you didn't write the Xenix kernel, you didn't write the compiler. You're just another user, despite any false pride because you typed some words in a terminal instead of pointing and clicking.

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RE[2]: Proud?
by CPUGuy on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 15:46 in reply to "RE: Proud?"
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So you are proud that you couldn't figure out how to use a computer on your own, and had to use a manual?

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RE[3]: Proud?
by fsckit on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 16:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Proud?"
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I'm not getting the connection. How does reading the manual != learning on your own?

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RE[3]: Proud?
by jwwf on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 16:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Proud?"
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So you are proud that you couldn't figure out how to use a computer on your own, and had to use a manual?

Don't sound like a fool. If you never make the first step of "admitting you have a problem" you will never be anything more than just another user for whom the machine works by magic. RTFM is the most important skill a computer user can learn.

edit: forgot to quote.

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RE[2]: Proud?
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 20:51 in reply to "RE: Proud?"
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Of course there is. I, myself, had XENIX on my first computer and yes I take some pride in the fact that I had to actually RTFM and learn to use a computer rather than the point,click,pray approach most people are forced into when starting with Windows.

Taking in pride in being *able* to learn to use the software is something I can understand. But why take pride in the fact that you *had* to learn? An accomplishments are something to take pride in, circumstances are not.

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RE[2]: Proud?
by chemical_scum on Tue 24th Oct 2006 02:07 in reply to "RE: Proud?"
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I, myself, had XENIX on my first computer

My first work computer in 1975 had DEC RT-11 as its operating system. My first home computer bought seven years later ran CP/M (Gary Kildall who wrote CP/M had originally worked on the DEC operating systems). Great not to have started with MS eh?

I didn't get to Unix (SunOS 3 and an early AIX) until 14 years after starting with DEC operating systems. I only wish I had got to Unix systems earlier. I use Ubuntu at home now, it just works.

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