Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 21:04 UTC, submitted by Manuel FLURY
Mozilla & Gecko clones The Mozilla Foundation has released version 2.0 of their Firefox webbrowser to their ftp site. The release notes are not yet updated, so you'll have to do with the release notes for the third release candidate, which will probably not differ all that much from the final notes.
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RE: Acid test
by umccullough on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 23:07 UTC in reply to "Acid test"
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

Why the hell would you use Opera simply because it passes Acid2 test? - do you actually think there is a website out there designed exclusively for browsers that can pass that test?

The test is designed to abuse CSS to the nth degree to see how browsers cope with it - it's not meant to represent some benchmark that web designers code to.

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RE[2]: Acid test
by abdavidson on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 23:10 in reply to "RE: Acid test"
abdavidson Member since:
2005-07-06

"Why the hell would you use Opera simply because it passes Acid2 test?"

I agree that thats a silly reason to use the browser.

However it does have something over the oft quoted reason that "I use Firefox because its open source".

At least there is a technical merit basis to stating that passing Acid2 is a reason to use the browser.

Personally I think both "it's OSS" and "it passes Acid2" are daft reasons to use any browser.

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RE[3]: Acid test
by umccullough on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 23:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Acid test"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Personally I think both "it's OSS" and "it passes Acid2" are daft reasons to use any browser.

How is "it's OSS" a daft reason? - OSS means that Firefox source can be scrutinized by external parties without any NDA, can be ported to new platforms without waiting for a commercial company to do it, can be modified and re-used by nearly anyone with few restrictions (there's the trademark issue - but I don't consider that a huge restriction technically - it's mostly just a marketing issue)

I go back to my previous point - Firefox is the ONLY browser that supports all of the hobby OSes that I care about. Opera does not do this (yet) - and neither do any KHTML-based browsers.

On the other hand, "Passes Acid2 test" is certainly low on my priority list.

Update: I may be wrong, Links/Lynx may also support all the OS platforms I care about...but i haven't checked yet ;)

Edited 2006-10-23 23:25

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RE[2]: Acid test
by DrillSgt on Mon 23rd Oct 2006 23:12 in reply to "RE: Acid test"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"Why the hell would you use Opera simply because it passes Acid2 test? - do you actually think there is a website out there designed exclusively for browsers that can pass that test?

The test is designed to abuse CSS to the nth degree to see how browsers cope with it - it's not meant to represent some benchmark that web designers code to."


Good point, and noted. Actually that post was a troll and can be modded down. I couldn't resist as someone later in the thread would have written about 'Superior standards support' being the reason to switch to Firefox 2.0. Why you ask? Because it happens on every damn firefox thread.

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RE[3]: Acid test
by pascalc on Tue 24th Oct 2006 02:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Acid test"
pascalc Member since:
2006-04-05

The problem wih people talking about 'Superior standards support' is that they aren't educated enough to realize that a browser supports many standards, CSS being one of them only. So even if Opera has a slightly better CSS support (and even that is questionnable since my experience is that Opera support more css2 commands but Gecko supported CSS commands are supported more reliably in very complex CSS-P designs), Gecko still has a better standards support overall since it's Javascript and DOM capabilities are much more complete than Opera.

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