Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Oct 2006 21:01 UTC
Windows "Eventually, we're going to see Vista come out. Yes, I know, even at this late date, Vista is still getting unexpected delays - it was set to go to manufacturing Oct. 25, but it's not going to make it - but it is on its way. My question, though, is: What version will actually work for you come that day?"
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RE[2]: WTF?!
by Phloptical on Wed 25th Oct 2006 00:08 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF?!"
Phloptical
Member since:
2006-10-10

Dude, Microsoft's newfound "We Heart Security" mantra pretty much makes them equal to what OS X has been doing for about 5 years now.

I give MS a little credit for being smart enough to stop hiding their heads in the sand, when it comes to the "our way or the highway" on OS development, but seriously with everything that Vista is, OS X has been and has done not only better but more consistently.

And please don't say you like Vista's "eyecandy". That would be extremely embarassing to yourself.

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RE[3]: WTF?!
by n4cer on Wed 25th Oct 2006 00:33 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

Dude, Microsoft's newfound "We Heart Security" mantra pretty much makes them equal to what OS X has been doing for about 5 years now.

Apple's approach to security usually involves marketing, denial, and deflection of responsibility.

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RE[4]: WTF?!
by Phloptical on Wed 25th Oct 2006 01:48 in reply to "RE[3]: WTF?!"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

....so I guess the fact that OS X is really a gussied up Unix obviously makes no nevermind to you. So, yeah, I guess Unix is really insecure, my mistake....damn you Apple marketing.

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RE[3]: WTF?!
by twenex on Wed 25th Oct 2006 00:40 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Dude, Microsoft's newfound "We Heart Security" mantra pretty much makes them equal to what OS X has been doing for about 5 years now.

Not only that, dude, but haven't they been saying "We Heart Security" for about five years now? So maybe they are setting themselves up as prophets. "We don't Heart Security yet, but we will - Real Soon NowTM"

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RE[4]: WTF?!
by Phloptical on Wed 25th Oct 2006 01:32 in reply to "RE[3]: WTF?!"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

HA! Sorry, I guess I forgot the age old tagline (ie. bold faced lie) "Best, Most Secure Version of Windows Ever."

Hey, if MS says it, it must be so, right?

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RE[3]: WTF?!
by BluenoseJake on Wed 25th Oct 2006 15:54 in reply to "RE[2]: WTF?!"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I agree with most of your points, but you have to remember, OS X inherited most of it's security philosophy and practices from Nextstep and BSD, apple just reaped the rewards. I am not saying it is a bad thing that they did that, it's just the way things are.

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RE[4]: WTF?!
by Phloptical on Thu 26th Oct 2006 03:19 in reply to "RE[3]: WTF?!"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

I'll take your word on the NeXTStep thing, since I really have no opinion on it one way or another. All I know about it is Apple took parts of it and incorporated it into OS X. But, yeah, whatever secure environment existed in BSD, Apple inherited and probably didn't do much to change.

Hey, if it works, right?

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