Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Oct 2006 16:21 UTC, submitted by thebluesgnr
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu team announced the release of Ubuntu 6.10, codenamed 'Edgy Eft'. Highlights for the desktop include GNOME 2.16, Firefox 2.0, OpenOffice.org 2.0.4, Gaim 2.0 and two new applications, F-Spot and Tomboy. This release also features a pre-release of the upcoming LTSP-5, as well as the usual updates of the base system, with GCC 4.1.1, Glibc 2.4 and Linux 2.6.17. There's a screenshot tour already, while Mark Shuttleworth commented on the news concerning Oracle and Linux. Update: The first review in what will probably become a long list. Update II: Kubuntu 6.10 is released as well.
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non-free software
by manmist on Thu 26th Oct 2006 17:03 UTC
manmist
Member since:
2005-12-18

Have they stopped installing non-free drivers by default in this release yet?

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RE: non-free software
by Lunitik on Thu 26th Oct 2006 18:05 in reply to "non-free software"
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

No... I guess they value having peoples hardware actually work too much?

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RE[2]: non-free software
by manmist on Thu 26th Oct 2006 20:22 in reply to "RE: non-free software"
manmist Member since:
2005-12-18

No... I guess they value having peoples hardware actually work too much?

Thats a poor excuse for falsely advertising support for Free software while discretely installing non-free drivers without user's selection.

Non-free kernel drivers are considered illegal by many kernel developers too.

http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_12.jpg

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RE: non-free software
by BlackJack75 on Thu 26th Oct 2006 20:47 in reply to "non-free software"
BlackJack75 Member since:
2005-08-29

I think it's time for you to move to some obscure BSD. Looks like Linux is becoming so mainstream that people care more about simplicity and functionnality than licensing...

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RE: non-free software
by Terracotta on Fri 27th Oct 2006 10:47 in reply to "non-free software"
Terracotta Member since:
2005-08-15

Have they ever installed them by default? I still need to install nvidia-glx to get the full nvidia-drivers. For ATI it's the same, have you got any idea what you're talking about? People get the open-source drivers and it's quite easy to install the closed source versions, so for the open source purists: the non-free drivers are not installed by default, they are shipped on the cd, but you do have to install them manually (YOUR choice if you want them or not).

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RE: non-free software
by aent on Fri 27th Oct 2006 15:42 in reply to "non-free software"
aent Member since:
2006-01-25

Yes, non-free softwares is not installed by default in this release. However, the hardware detection system will detect if you have a piece of hardware that can ONLY function by non-free drivers, and if and only if you have hardware that CANNOT FUNCTION without non-free drivers, will it install non-free drivers. The default installation and on most computers it will not install any non-free drivers.

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RE[2]: non-free software
by manmist on Fri 27th Oct 2006 19:58 in reply to "RE: non-free software"
manmist Member since:
2005-12-18

Yes, non-free softwares is not installed by default in this release. However, the hardware detection system will detect if you have a piece of hardware that can ONLY function by non-free drivers, and if and only if you have hardware that CANNOT FUNCTION without non-free drivers, will it install non-free drivers.

So it still does install non-free drivers. A pity that they havent stopped doing this. For the other person who thinks this is right just because they are popular right now. Let me remind you Windows is much more popular. So thats not a good argument to make.

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