Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Oct 2006 21:05 UTC, submitted by wuda
Java Demonstrating a perhaps more aggressive path than anticipated, Sun Microsystems is set to announce the open-sourcing of the core Java platform within 30 to 60 days, Sun President and CEO Jonathan Schwartz said at the Oracle OpenWorld conference on Wednesday morning.
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someone
Member since:
2006-01-12

Java's never gotten traction in the open source world.

Did you ever bother visiting apache.org and have a look at their top level projects (most of them are widely used in the enterprise world)? How about looking at the percentage of sf.net projects using Java?

Definitely not anywhere on the desktop.

Although Java was never as popular on the Desktop as it is on Servers, I am sure you have heard about both Azureus and Limewire.

With some new exciting stuff coming out (like 'D') and the convenience of running true scriping languages I just don't see Java doing anything other than continue to lose interest...

Except they don't have access to the vast amount of libraries and frameworks that Java has. One example would be WebObjects. Another good example would be java.lang.concurrent. Actually, that's not quite true: many popular scripting languages have Java implementations (eg. JRuby and Mozilla Rhino) which can make use of java frameworks and compile to the Java bytecode.

Edited 2006-10-27 01:11

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SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

"Although Java was never as popular on the Desktop as it is on Servers, I am sure you have heard about both Azureus and Limewire."

Yes, they are both bloatware and slow, just like all Java apps. Give me a mono equivalent any day.

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ahmetaa Member since:
2005-07-06

sure you have no clue what you are talking about.

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someone Member since:
2006-01-12

"Although Java was never as popular on the Desktop as it is on Servers, I am sure you have heard about both Azureus and Limewire."

Yes, they are both bloatware and slow, just like all Java apps. Give me a mono equivalent any day.


So that they may work reasonably well on Gnome, work slowly on KDE and look awful on OS X (not to mention having to run on X11) and Window (I can't believe I am saying this, but both SWT and Swing will beat GTK any day when it comes to Win32 support).

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someone Member since:
2006-01-12

Yes, they are both bloatware and slow, just like all Java apps. Give me a mono equivalent any day.

I doubt Mono will run any better on your memory constrained machine...

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phgt Member since:
2006-09-16

It is java.util.concurrent. But you are right, this is an outstanding library for multithreading written by Doug Lea. It has no equivalent in any language AFAIK. I recently an ETL using a pipeline design with this library and it was an order of magnitude faster than a very optimized C++ version.

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