Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Oct 2006 17:28 UTC, submitted by Tyr.
Windows "Leading PC manufacturer Acer has accused Microsoft of ratcheting up the cost of Windows by effectively forcing consumers to opt for the Premium version of Vista. Acer claims that the Vista Home Basic - the new entry-level Windows - is so poorly featured that consumers will simply reject it. "The new [Vista] experience you hear of, if you get Basic, you won't feel it at all," said Jim Wong, senior corporate vice president at Acer. "There's no [Aero] graphics, no Media Center, no remote control."
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Ship Linux
by rexbinary on Sat 28th Oct 2006 19:07 UTC
rexbinary
Member since:
2006-01-04

If Acer had some balls they would start offering Linux pre-installs as well.

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RE: Ship Linux
by ThawkTH on Sat 28th Oct 2006 19:45 in reply to "Ship Linux"
ThawkTH Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, I agree but...why beat up on Acer?!

If (Insert Manufacturer)


Dell,
Gateway
HP

Had balls (and frankly it might take a lot less balls for HP/Dell to flip Microsoft the tall one and start preinstalling Linux than a small manufacturer like Acer)

T

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RE[2]: Ship Linux
by bornagainenguin on Sun 29th Oct 2006 18:28 in reply to "RE: Ship Linux"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

Maybe Acer is getting picked on because they're the ones who are complaining? It's easy to whine about a prblem, and not quite so easy to actually do something about it, you know?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE: Ship Linux
by Jody on Sat 28th Oct 2006 22:35 in reply to "Ship Linux"
Jody Member since:
2005-06-30

This is becasue shipping a Linux distro would mean customers buying it would expect support for it.

Picture a non-Linux person buying the Linux system because it is $50 cheaper. Now they are faced with something they have never seen and they call the vendor "how do I make x, y, or z work on this computer you sold me??"

They could say on the page "we don't supoport the OS" but many wouldn't understand.

Believe me, I once did internet tech support and I talked to people all the time who though that if they found something on the internet, we were supposed to support it becasue we provided the internet to them.

If you ask them, if they got a virus through "our internet" it was our problem too.

If Linux came with the PC, in the eyes of most customers you sold them that product and they will believe you are entitled to support it.

Most people who use Linux are going to install their own flavor anyway. When someone downloads Ubuntu or Mandrake etc. on their own, their is no expectation of support from the PC vendor.

For the time being, shipping with FreeDOS seems to be the most realistic solution.

Edited 2006-10-28 22:37

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RE[2]: Ship Linux
by wirespot on Mon 30th Oct 2006 10:22 in reply to "RE: Ship Linux"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

Then they should pick one of the better Linux desktop distro's and work out a support deal with the maker. Don't you think Novell or Ubuntu would jump at the opportunity?

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RE: Ship Linux
by joeprusa on Sat 28th Oct 2006 22:56 in reply to "Ship Linux"
joeprusa Member since:
2006-05-25

That's what they sort of do here (Czech republic). They offer a PC with "Linux" - meaning no system at all (that's Acer). Or you can get a PC with FreeDOS (that's HP). In both cases you have to actually install it yourself and I suspect nobody bothers to check for HW compatibility.
As for the Vista Basic - you will (supposedly) have all versions on a single DVD, so once you realize you need more than Basic, you pay Microsoft - directly, no middleman - and get the better stuff.

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RE[2]: Ship Linux
by n4cer on Sat 28th Oct 2006 23:29 in reply to "RE: Ship Linux"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

As for the Vista Basic - you will (supposedly) have all versions on a single DVD, so once you realize you need more than Basic, you pay Microsoft - directly, no middleman - and get the better stuff.

Not directly. The Anytime Upgrade purchasing process is handled via several partners, possibly even the OEM from which you bought the computer.

Regarding Acer, complaining about pricing isn't new for them. They've complained in the past about XP Tablet PC Edition, seeking price breaks for it.

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RE: Ship Linux
by taos on Sun 29th Oct 2006 00:56 in reply to "Ship Linux"
taos Member since:
2005-11-16

rexbinary: If Acer had some balls they would start offering Linux pre-installs as well.

Edit: on the second read, I saw "as well", so I took my orignal response back.

Edited 2006-10-29 01:00

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