Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 22:05 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Novell and Ximian At a press conference in San Francisco, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is expected to announce a new partnership between Microsoft and Novell. The unprecedented deal will have Microsoft offering a degree of sales support for Novell's SUSE Linux while both companies work towards better interoperability between their respective operating systems. As part of the agreement, Microsoft also promises not to wield its patent portfolio against SUSE Linux. More here. You can follow the live webcast announcement, by Steve Ballmer, here. Update: Novell has put up a detailed FAQ about this deal.
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RE: Conference...
by macisaac on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 22:46 UTC in reply to "Conference..."
macisaac
Member since:
2005-08-28

well one big patent coverage that _is_ pretty big (as Eugenia mentions above) is:

Q: What does the patent agreement cover with regard to Mono and OpenOffice?

Yes, under the patent agreement, customers will receive coverage for Mono, Samba, and OpenOffice as well as .NET and Windows Server. All of these technologies will be improved upon during the five years of the agreement and there are some limits on the coverage that would be provided for future technologies added to these offerings. The collaboration framework we have put in place allows us to work on complex subjects such as this where intellectual property and innovation are important parts of the conversation.


guess that puts to rest all the doom and gloom scenarios that have surrounded mono since it's inception.

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RE[2]: Conference...
by santana on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 22:50 in reply to "RE: Conference..."
santana Member since:
2006-10-22

"guess that puts to rest all the doom and gloom scenarios that have surrounded mono since it's inception."

Except this worries me a bit: 5 years and "there are some limits on the coverage that would be provided for future technologies added to these offerings."

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RE[3]: Conference...
by kaiwai on Sat 4th Nov 2006 04:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Conference..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Meh, who cares; Microsoft is concerned about one thing; making heaps of cash; and if that means licencing their technology, why not? this isn't the first time Microsoft has licenced it's IP to a Linux vendor; TurboLinux licenced WMA CODEC for example.

5 year agreements are pretty standard; it allows both parties to either agree on the status quo, or negotiate a more comprehensive agreement.

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RE[2]: Conference...
by santana on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 22:59 in reply to "RE: Conference..."
santana Member since:
2006-10-22

And, oh yes, don't forget, this applies just if you buy Suse. And part of that money goes to MS as royalities. This is a MS answer to Oracle/RedHat. MS blessed Linux, there can be only one. And they'll get money from every single one sold.

It is intellectual property and patents story all over again.

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RE[3]: Conference...
by Geoff Gigg on Thu 2nd Nov 2006 23:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Conference..."
Geoff Gigg Member since:
2006-01-21

I agree. From the FAQ:

"both Novell and Microsoft felt it was appropriate to make this pledge for Microsoft not to assert its patents against the non-commercial community."

And later ...

"Yes, under the patent agreement, customers will receive coverage for Mono, Samba, and OpenOffice as well as .NET and Windows Server. All of these technologies will be improved upon during the five years of the agreement"

So the "improvements" might not be available to other distributions, if they are "improved" with patented software. Would their changes make it back to the source projects, and if so would they be accepted? And if accepted, would takers be vulnerable, if commercial like Xandros, Mandriva, etc?

Lots of questions ...

Geoff

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RE[2]: Conference...
by de_wizze on Fri 3rd Nov 2006 06:49 in reply to "RE: Conference..."
de_wizze Member since:
2005-10-31

Except that its one of the 'double negatives' ... coverage only for Suse means an open threat and just short of promise to go after everyone else who doesn't pony up to the patent lords.

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