Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th Nov 2006 21:39 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source "I am a linguist by training. Long before I delved into free software and was snagged by the quagmire of marketing, I pondered the marvels of morphology, the grimness of grammar and the splendor of semantics. It is only natural then that my wrangling criticism of industry-speak, in both technical and literary modes, is informed by ingrained linguistic sensibilities, descriptive and proscriptive. Given my background, I find it vexing when open source is used as a verb."
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Stupid Linguists
by egarland on Sun 5th Nov 2006 04:31 UTC
egarland
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2005-08-05

"I cant believe [commonly used word/phrase] is commonly held to mean [commonly held meaning of said word/phrase]. That's incorrect!"

When the hell will they learn that if a word/phrase has a commonly held meaning it is BY DEFINITION correct language. If the rules you attribute to the language say that it is incorrect then it is THOSE RULES that are wrong. Sorry. That's how language works. Get used to it.

"ZOMG. Radar should be all caps and with .'s inbetween. Modem, raid, bears, oh my! The rules should be what I say they are! Stop breaking my rules."

You don't control language. Sorry.

If a linguist hates the way language is adapted to suit the needs of those who use it, they should pick a new career.

(Yes.. I used "they" as a singular gender neutral pronoun. It has that meaning now. Get over it.)

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RE: Stupid Linguists
by cheezlbub on Sun 5th Nov 2006 04:50 in reply to "Stupid Linguists"
cheezlbub Member since:
2006-07-17

hey now, don't lump us all together with this guy.....

There are "rules" to language, there are things that are possible and things that are impossible. In the realm of things that are possible there are more and less probable things. For the most part, the meanings of individual words don't really matter - what matters are grammaticality judgments of native speakers.

if you ask a native English speaker if:

"Sun is going to open source java this week"

is grammatical or not, I betcha they'd say it was.

You can 'verbify' any noun, really - and in the present or future tense, it might not take on a marker signifying that in english (we're a tad on the syntax-y side of things. lots of other languages would tack a verb marker onto it and call it good.)

(one could also nominalize verbs, but that's a little different)
EDIT: added "with this guy"

Edited 2006-11-05 04:53

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