Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Nov 2006 17:40 UTC, submitted by bmeurer
Xfce The Xfce development team is pleased to announce that the second and hopefully last release candidate of the upcoming Xfce 4.4 desktop is available for download now. The release focuses primarily on bug fixes and optimizations; see the release notes for a complete list of changes. The source tarballs and the graphical installer are available from the download page.
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RE[2]: Hope
by situation on Sun 5th Nov 2006 19:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Hope"
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Maybe I just want slightly more than a WM, and way less than a DE. And to me xfce used to provide that, and I'm hoping 4.4 still does.

My definition of bloat is probably not the same for you; what I consider a useless feature may be a godsend for others. I don't need an integrated file manager and graphical archiving tool. I'd rather keep the apps as separate as possible (ie: move the bare minimum into the core xfce components). All I really want is their panel, taskbar, settings panel, and that's about it. Adding apps on top of that starts to move towards a heavier DE approach where everything is included.

I haven't even tried 4.4 yet, but I might when I get home, or maybe just wait until the final version.

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RE[3]: Hope
by cyclops on Sun 5th Nov 2006 20:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Hope"
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The release candidates at least the first one unless there has been a regression feels better than earlier versions.

You talk about cross-purposes. XFCE *is* a lightweight Desktop environment. As far as features, are concerned you are talking about *feature bloat*, everything you need and nothing you don't.

KDE and I suspect GNOME. Can be stripped down quite heavily, because they are modular. search for kde-lite. I tried it for a time but I missed XFCE terminal application.

XFCE I would say is becoming a minimal collection of applications that fit in with XFCE i.e lightweight and fast alternatives to *common applications*.

Your feature bloat as you describe affecting it being lightweight and fast is false. The only problem I envisage is that a relatively small team, cannot evolve XFCE fast enough due to the amount of applications they need to maintain, and ends up like enlightenment.

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RE[4]: Hope
by situation on Sun 5th Nov 2006 20:32 in reply to "RE[3]: Hope"
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"Your feature bloat as you describe affecting it being lightweight and fast is false."

I don't see how that can possibly be true. Adding more integrated components means more to load, bigger file sizes, more RAM usage, etc.

Your definition of bloat is different than mine, it's not a big deal.

I still am hoping that xfce doesn't try to keep adding integrated apps in the hope of being the next Gnome. It is a niche DE but does it's specified job very well.

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