Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 5th Nov 2006 17:40 UTC, submitted by bmeurer
Xfce The Xfce development team is pleased to announce that the second and hopefully last release candidate of the upcoming Xfce 4.4 desktop is available for download now. The release focuses primarily on bug fixes and optimizations; see the release notes for a complete list of changes. The source tarballs and the graphical installer are available from the download page.
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Bloated
by mariux on Sun 5th Nov 2006 21:44 UTC
mariux
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2005-11-13

For every release of some software there are almost always people complaining about that specific piece of software being bloated, and every time i wonder what these people are using their computer for and what kind of pc they have.

Are really all those people running a pc with sub-256mb ram? If so i can understand it, but i highly doubt that is the case. What do people want with all that available ram? I personally have ram so that programs can make use of it. The fact that i am running kde apps may make startups slower because there is more to load from the hd, but how much are we talking here? 10 seconds over the course of a day?
Those 10 seconds i can easily make up for within 10 minutes of using kde (not trying to evangelise kde here, its just that its what i am running) thanks to the extra features it gives me.

On a 512mb ram pc, i find it unlikely that there will ever be any significant swapping if you run kde or gnome, so why save ram just for the sake of it?

Using xfce because you find it better suited for your usage: be my guest, using xfce so that you can make sure that you have plenty of free ram: why?

Edited 2006-11-05 21:45

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RE: Bloated
by dylansmrjones on Sun 5th Nov 2006 22:00 in reply to "Bloated"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Oh trust me. With 512 MB of RAM there will be plenty of swapping with Gnome. GNUstep works better but lacks quite a few applications and has some rough edges.

The problem is that coders are getting lazier as computers are getting faster. It takes longer today to start an office suite than it did 8 years ago. With no more functionality today than back then. Now, that's bad.

EDIT: The time lost by applications are quite large. An irritating delay everytime you click on something or choose a menu item, or press a key. In Gnome it's pretty easy to write far far ahead of the update in textboxes.

There is quite a difference between an application starting in <=.4 Seconds and an application starting in 5 to 35 Seconds.

The problem is btw. not how much time you lose on waiting alone. The problem is the breaking of your work flow. All the constant small breaks where you have to wait is ruining your work rhythm. _Really_ annoying.

Edited 2006-11-05 22:06

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