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Member since:2006-02-15
"the GNU system, provide a rather complete and usable operating system today."
You really should have included the very next sentence from the paragraph:
It is not ready for production use, as there are still many bugs and missing features.
It's funny how the HURD guys took an already working OS 15 years ago and now don't have a working production version of it. If that ain't failing, I don't know what is.
Apparently you don't know the history of GCC. The version worked on my Stallman died. There was a fork called EGCC that was worked on by other people, mostly from Cygnus, later RedHat. The FSF gave up control of GCC to the GCC management team, in return for which they got to still call it an FSF project.
Almost none of the work on what is now GCC was done by anyone from the FSF. It was mostly done by people from Cygnus and RedHat, and now CodeSourcery, with a big infusion of technology from HP and Intel for Itanium.
Member since:2005-07-06
"You really should have included the very next sentence from the paragraph: "
Why the point is its finish and work , the point your trying to fasely proove is that it dont work and is not finished , not ready for production and still as bugs dont mean its not working and finished , the same thing is being said for Windows , Mac OS X , GNU/Linux depending on who you talk to.
"it's funny how the HURD guys took an already working OS 15 years ago"
What OS did the Hurd took ? Its a kernel ! They invented a completely new kernel.
" If that ain't failing, I don't know what is."
You dont know what failing is then. Its not taking decade and many try to make a product that work and is Free Software. HURD does not have for goal to beat Linux or any other Kernel , it as for goal to be free software and do something different.
"Apparently you don't know the history of GCC."
No , Apparently I dont SELECT certain part of GCC history to make a false point like you do.
"The version worked on my Stallman died."
http://gcc.gnu.org/
Dont look dead to anyone who live in reality.
"There was a fork called EGCC that was worked on by other people"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EGCS
"In computing, EGCS (Experimental/Enhanced GNU Compiler System, pronounced "eggs") was a compiler system which forked from GCC in 1997 and was re-merged in April 1999."
"Almost none of the work on what is now GCC was done by anyone from the FSF"
Thats what you want people to believe , but logfile and reality say otherwise.
"The FSF gave up control"
The FSF is about Free Software.
"It was mostly done by people from Cygnus and RedHat, and now CodeSourcery, with a big infusion of technology from HP and Intel for Itanium."
Since when is FSF about refusing and obstructing contribution from others ? As long as you do Free Software and contribute free software , EVERYONE AND ANYONE is welcome.
EVEN you can contribute. Your selective memory and false point is irrelevant and false in the face of entire history and reality.
FSF is about Free Software.
Member since:
2005-07-06
Hurd :
http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html#status
"the GNU system, provide a rather complete and usable operating system today."
"The history of HURD"
Show that software are hard to make and dont grow on tree. That money and willingness and hard work is not the only factor in making a sucessfull os ...
"the FSF version of GCC died on the vine"
http://gcc.gnu.org/
Not looking dead to reality ...
"Stallman mostly did EMACS"
Founder of the GNU project.
Co-founder of the FSF.
President, Free Software Foundation
etc ...
"the GPL doesn't get credit for Linux. "
The Linux kernel was first released under the Linus Torvalds license , wich failed , then he decide to license it under the GPL , The GPL is why we have the Linux kernel as strong today and why we have GNU/Linux systems.
Historically , the FSF , get the credit for starting Free Software projects , supporting , funding , legalising it by a license , defending Free software in court and outside of court , promoting it and defending its value and existance against thief and liar like you.
There work is to stop Free Software and obstruct it according to you , they been doing the opposite for more then 20 years but hey that dont count in your false views and lies.
In summary: Cloudy you are irrelevant in regard to reality. Your trying to rewrite recorded history is also really pathetic.