Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Sun 5th Nov 2006 22:59 UTC
General Development David Chisnall takes a look behind the scenes at Apple's upcoming revamp of the Objective-C language. As with any new language, some things are good, some are ugly, and some are both.
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RE: SmallTalk
by NicolasRoard on Mon 6th Nov 2006 13:06 UTC in reply to "SmallTalk"
NicolasRoard
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2005-07-16

Here we are again, talking about yet another language that tries to be ST like.

Just use ST!


Objective-C is not a "new" language. It has the nice advantage over Smalltalk of beeing a strict superset of C -- therefore it's damn easy to integrate or reuse C (or C++) code with Objective-C. And create components. And be fast.

Beside, you're talking about Squeak, which I happened to like *a lot* ;) but still, it's not the panacea, in particular for developping desktop applications (I know, there's the WxWorks bridge..), Objective-C with Cocoa+InterfaceBuilder (or GNUstep+Gorm on the rest of the world) is _so much_ better for that task...

Give me a working bridge between Squeak and the Objective-C runtime (so we could transparently use Cocoa/GNUstep from Squeak) and things will be different (to be fair there is an existing Squeak/Cocoa bridge, but callbacks aren't possible, hence making it nearly useless, sadly).

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RE[2]: SmallTalk
by sigzero on Mon 6th Nov 2006 14:32 in reply to "RE: SmallTalk"
sigzero Member since:
2006-01-03

If you want to use Smalltalk, Ambrai is coming out with that.

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RE[3]: SmallTalk
by NicolasRoard on Mon 6th Nov 2006 15:37 in reply to "RE[2]: SmallTalk"
NicolasRoard Member since:
2005-07-16

If you want to use Smalltalk, Ambrai is coming out with that.

Ambrai uses Carbon.. bof.

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