Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Nov 2006 18:26 UTC
Novell and Ximian "Someone just asked me whether, now that Novell's become buddies with Microsoft, I'll be turning away from Novell/SUSE as one of my favorite Linux distributions. My answer is no. I'm sticking with SUSE Linux on both my desktops and servers. Here's why."
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startxjeff
Member since:
2006-09-29

That's the exact reason why I advocate NOT using Windows.

Anytime MS comes out with a new OS, MS "Admins" demand that the business switch to the more "updated" Windows, else the business can't recieve updates and "fixes".

And no thought is given to the fact that some applications don't work on the new MS windows.

I agree. Stay away from cults and forced upgrade artists. They will bring you nothing but grief.

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DittoBox Member since:
2005-07-08

I don't know any Microsoft SysAdmins who think upgrading as soon as a new product is released is anywhere near a good idea.

Microsoft supports many of their products beyond what most Linux distros do. Windows 98, and agreeable crappy OS was receiving security updates until just a few months ago. It was supported with "fixes" for nearly 8 years. Ubuntu's only last 18 months until the recent LTS of 5 years.

Windows 2000 has been receiving updates for 6 years and will likely continue for another year or two, which would again make that an 8 year product cycle.

Indeed I know a few MS Admins who refuse to deploy the the latest version of Windows on current company computers --even on the desktops and especially on servers-- until a first or even second service pack is released, just to give time to iron out any possible major issues.

So, yeah, stay away from cults.

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IanSVT Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't know any Microsoft SysAdmins who think upgrading as soon as a new product is released is anywhere near a good idea.

I don't know of any admins, microsoft or not, who think upgrading as soon as a new projuct is released is a good idea.

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NotParker Member since:
2006-06-01

Anytime MS comes out with a new OS, MS "Admins" demand that the business switch to the more "updated" Windows, else the business can't recieve updates and "fixes".

I'm assuming you are running an old, old distro like RedHat 7.0 and never upgrade ...

All joking aside, upgrading from one version of Windows to a new version to keep current on a reasonable business cycle (which most businesses do) is not comparable like the cult members advocating the dumping of Novell/SLED for another distro because of their hatred of Microsoft.

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deb2006 Member since:
2006-06-26

Ask yourself why MS is hated. Try to understand. Once you've accomplished that, come back and post again. But think first, then post. Thank you.

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Sphinx Member since:
2005-07-09

Typical MS cult lifetime card carrying member, "it's not a cult", "I'm not a member", "I could quit any time", "I'm in control...", heard it all before, none of them will ever recognize it in themselves, just too close to the problem.

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startxjeff Member since:
2006-09-29

Actually, RH 7.3 to be fair.

And I just cooked Fedora Core 6.0

I also have Debian and Ubuntu, but I prefer Debian to all these just because I can change it any way that I like it. =)

Oh... and Winderz XP SP2.

And I might get Vista. Then again - maybe not. I don't know yet. I think that I might let XP SP2 just die EOL and then I'll get a PS3 for games.

Nothing is new under the sun.

Linux is the airplane. Windows is the Rail Road.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

You're totally wrong.

First, admins typically recommend waiting a couple cycles of service packs before going to a new Windows version.

Second, MS has extended Windows 2000 support for 8 years. There aren't many other vendors who will support an OS version for that period of time or longer.

Third, the reason that admins don't recommend going to a new version of Windows when it's released is precisely because it takes time to test an organization's applications with a new release. Most problems are generally resolved in subsequent service packs.

There's no such thing as a "forced upgrade artist". That's a figment of your imagination.

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Ookaze Member since:
2005-11-14

Second, MS has extended Windows 2000 support for 8 years. There aren't many other vendors who will support an OS version for that period of time or longer

And there you are caught in a big big lie.
But I'm not surprised, you Windows zealots are making things up all the time.
MS will only give security fixes to Win200 if you pay HIGH prices, and won't fix it AT ALL. The company I work for now detected a big flaw (and there probably others) in the TCP/IP stack of Win2000. The answer of MS is clear : they will NOT fix it, they DON'T fix it anymore, only security fixes will be made available if the problem is critical and youpay high prices.

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