Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Nov 2006 18:26 UTC
Novell and Ximian "Someone just asked me whether, now that Novell's become buddies with Microsoft, I'll be turning away from Novell/SUSE as one of my favorite Linux distributions. My answer is no. I'm sticking with SUSE Linux on both my desktops and servers. Here's why."
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RE[4]: Er.... Content?
by somebody on Mon 6th Nov 2006 21:33 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Er.... Content?"
somebody
Member since:
2005-07-07

Wow, I really wonder in which century you live:)

Up from FC5 (now FC6), I decided to have one desktop where not even one piece of software is not compiled by me, you could call it "point'n'click fun experiment"

While FC5 lacked few things FC6 lacks nothing. And it is regularly updated without any cron job or compile. I even installed 32-bit FFox2 with flash9 on it, without a single terminal usage.

The only advanced action was running Alacarte (after first boot) and disabling Terminal menu icon, so I can't mistakenly take a shortcut.

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RE[5]: Er.... Content?
by Adam S on Mon 6th Nov 2006 21:38 in reply to "RE[4]: Er.... Content?"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

I decided to have one desktop where not even one piece of software is not compiled by me

You're joking, right? I know you are. Ha ha ha, you're funny! See, because you're implication is that everyone compiles from source right? And we know this is true.

That's why people have coded APT/DEB, Synaptic, Yum, Yast, Xandros Networks, PBIs, Click N' Run, Conary, etc. Because building from source is such a commonplace thing, right?

Most desktop users don't use cron for anything. In fact, I'd wager most don't even know what it is.

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RE[6]: Er.... Content?
by somebody on Mon 6th Nov 2006 22:24 in reply to "RE[5]: Er.... Content?"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

You're joking, right?

Yeah,... and not, more sarcastic. My typical reaction on Gentoo talk. Beside the point, there always were limits what you could do with p'n'c, no matter how many installers you mention. FC6 is the first distro, except ubuntu that went trough my test of complete desktop setup without one single line in terminal.

You see, in the past I was always setting up desktops for my non-techie friends and suddenly that became boring and troublesome (I don't have as much time to spare as I had). This is probably the reason why my brains start making hoops when I see people preaching things like cron as easy.

This is why I started testing this. To be able to predict where Joe User can slip up and limit my help to that places only.

And yeah, it is just as you say. cron, KCron, means shit to Joe User. He doesn't know what cron is, he doesn't know what to look for to install KCron. How would this be easy. Well, if a techie would hold his hand trough install. But, that would kill all reasons for my little experiment.

Lucky me, it's very rare to hear two hardcore Gentoo users talking lately. It seems like those went down the road where dodo and dinosaurs vanished and use precompiled packages now.

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