Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Nov 2006 22:56 UTC
Novell and Ximian "Often cast as the peacemaker in free software disputes, Bruce Perens is on the warpath. When we caught up with him, he wasn't in a mood to be charitable to Novell. On Friday the Utah company, which markets the SuSE Linux distribution, revealed that it was entering into a partnership with Microsoft. Redmond would pay Novell an undisclosed sum in return for Novell recognizing Microsoft's intellectual property claims. Novell received a 'Covenant' promising that it wouldn't be sued by Microsoft."It's a case of 'Damn the people who write the software'", he told us. "Novell is in a desperate position - it has a smaller share of the market than Debian,"" he told The Register. Update: Novell responds to community's questions: here, here and here. Update 2: Havoc Pennington's take.
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But ...
by NotParker on Tue 7th Nov 2006 23:15 UTC
NotParker
Member since:
2006-06-01

"But the FSF owns the C library and the compiler outright."

I thougt free software was "free"?

Now I find out its owned by someone? And revenge can be taken against heretics like Novell. Or anyone who annoys the high priests.

I'm distraught.

Edited 2006-11-07 23:16

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RE: But ...
by Redeeman on Tue 7th Nov 2006 23:50 in reply to "But ... "
Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

thats right, the FSF owns the copyright, BUT

you can still own a copy of the work, with all the rights, privileges and responsibilities as described by the LGPL and GPL.


so whats the problem? it is free software

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RE: But ...
by somebody on Tue 7th Nov 2006 23:55 in reply to "But ... "
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

I thougt free software was "free"?

And it is.

Now I find out its owned by someone? And revenge can be taken against heretics like Novell. Or anyone who annoys the high priests.

Yes, and you're just as much owning that piece as the people who have written it. That is as long as you conduct with GPL rules.

The moment you break the copyright law on GPL, (still) valid owners can use GPL against you in court.

Have you ever questioned your self why companies treat GPL as "viral" license? Because it is free and in the same time they are limited on how they can use it.

I'm distraught.

I hope this explanation cleared things for you.

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RE[2]: But ...
by tomcat on Wed 8th Nov 2006 00:35 in reply to "RE: But ... "
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

You'll notice Perens didn't specify how Novell is violating GPL -- because he's fundamentally wrong. Novell and MS agreed not to sue each other. Novell in now way acknowledged that any particular code contains patent-infringing IP. It doesn't have to do that. That isn't necessary in order to have this truce with MS.

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RE: But ...
by porcel on Wed 8th Nov 2006 15:14 in reply to "But ... "
porcel Member since:
2006-01-28

Dear Mr. NotParker:

You are a troll as shown by every single post on every single linux thread that you have ever posted. Your posting history also demonstrates this.

Therefore, your facetious question needs to be taken in this light as well. You did not really mean to raise an honest question about the c libraries or the compilers mentioned in the article.

It is known and has been known for ages that GPL software is copyrighted and that its license allows redistribution, modification and use if you abide by it. If you don't, you may no longer redistribute the software. Is this so hard for you to grasp?

Of course, not, which is why you were trolling as your record on this site very clearly points out.

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RE[2]: But ...
by NotParker on Wed 8th Nov 2006 18:17 in reply to "RE: But ... "
NotParker Member since:
2006-06-01

Dear Mr. NotParker:

You are a troll as shown by every single post on every single linux thread that you have ever posted. Your posting history also demonstrates this.


You cultist are pathetically thin skinned.

You rage about Microsoft. You lie about Microsoft. Its pathetic. And if someone points out your lies - they are a troll.

If someone says something nice about Microsoft - they are a troll.

The truth is the cultists are the trolls. They are obnoxious, hate mongers who have a tiny, tiny presence on the desktops of the world ... but they act like they are on a mission from god.

They also have no sense of humor. They don't like opposition of any kind. And for the most part they are appallingly igorant about Microsoft software.




I tried polite and factual. I was modded down maliciously. No wonder you think every post of mine is annoying. Almost all are modded down, no matter how well referenced - so you and the cult don't have to read them.

Edited 2006-11-08 18:20

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