Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Nov 2006 22:56 UTC
Novell and Ximian "Often cast as the peacemaker in free software disputes, Bruce Perens is on the warpath. When we caught up with him, he wasn't in a mood to be charitable to Novell. On Friday the Utah company, which markets the SuSE Linux distribution, revealed that it was entering into a partnership with Microsoft. Redmond would pay Novell an undisclosed sum in return for Novell recognizing Microsoft's intellectual property claims. Novell received a 'Covenant' promising that it wouldn't be sued by Microsoft."It's a case of 'Damn the people who write the software'", he told us. "Novell is in a desperate position - it has a smaller share of the market than Debian,"" he told The Register. Update: Novell responds to community's questions: here, here and here. Update 2: Havoc Pennington's take.
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RE: But ...
by somebody on Tue 7th Nov 2006 23:55 UTC in reply to "But ... "
somebody
Member since:
2005-07-07

I thougt free software was "free"?

And it is.

Now I find out its owned by someone? And revenge can be taken against heretics like Novell. Or anyone who annoys the high priests.

Yes, and you're just as much owning that piece as the people who have written it. That is as long as you conduct with GPL rules.

The moment you break the copyright law on GPL, (still) valid owners can use GPL against you in court.

Have you ever questioned your self why companies treat GPL as "viral" license? Because it is free and in the same time they are limited on how they can use it.

I'm distraught.

I hope this explanation cleared things for you.

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RE[2]: But ...
by tomcat on Wed 8th Nov 2006 00:35 in reply to "RE: But ... "
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

You'll notice Perens didn't specify how Novell is violating GPL -- because he's fundamentally wrong. Novell and MS agreed not to sue each other. Novell in now way acknowledged that any particular code contains patent-infringing IP. It doesn't have to do that. That isn't necessary in order to have this truce with MS.

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RE[3]: But ...
by molnarcs on Wed 8th Nov 2006 01:06 in reply to "RE[2]: But ... "
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Novell in now way acknowledged that any particular code contains patent-infringing IP.

So, the mutual patent protection agreement is about ... what?

"Under the patent agreement, customers will receive coverage for Mono, Samba, and OpenOffice as well as .NET and Windows Server."

This is a direct acknowledgement of the possibility of MS patents in some opensource software that isn't even developed at Novell. The only way it could be more direct if Novell made a statement that openoffice.org is infringing on Microsoft's patents. Did you expect them to do that? I guess unless you see such a statement, you won't accept the fact that the quoted passage is< an acknowledgment of the existence of patent infringing IP. Why would you need such a deal otherwise? Why does this only apply to Novell customers?

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RE[3]: But ...
by somebody on Wed 8th Nov 2006 01:11 in reply to "RE[2]: But ... "
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

(:and if you look my post was the first saying and pointing to explanation why Novell didn't break:)

Nah, I don't need explanation:) That was just my way how to politely kill NotParkers wish to start troll thread again. He posted almost the same topic all over MS-Novell threads and always people fallen for it. And it seems I wasn't the only one to get this idea.

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RE[3]: But ...
by mabhatter on Wed 8th Nov 2006 01:50 in reply to "RE[2]: But ... "
mabhatter Member since:
2005-07-17

they are distributing GPL'd software MS is saying it "might" claim but not passing their patent "rights" Microsoft is granting along with the code to their customers that might distribute the programs... that's a violation.

Essentially, they are skirting the clause by not specifying which claims MS might be making... so just like SCO the are fueling FUD and complicit with the "Man".

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