Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Nov 2006 22:56 UTC
Novell and Ximian "Often cast as the peacemaker in free software disputes, Bruce Perens is on the warpath. When we caught up with him, he wasn't in a mood to be charitable to Novell. On Friday the Utah company, which markets the SuSE Linux distribution, revealed that it was entering into a partnership with Microsoft. Redmond would pay Novell an undisclosed sum in return for Novell recognizing Microsoft's intellectual property claims. Novell received a 'Covenant' promising that it wouldn't be sued by Microsoft."It's a case of 'Damn the people who write the software'", he told us. "Novell is in a desperate position - it has a smaller share of the market than Debian,"" he told The Register. Update: Novell responds to community's questions: here, here and here. Update 2: Havoc Pennington's take.
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RE: Not surprising
by twenex on Wed 8th Nov 2006 00:29 UTC in reply to "Not surprising"
twenex
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2006-04-21

Just because you hate MS doesn't mean you're wrong. Plenty people have liked MS and been duped. People tend to take a sudden dislike to other people who dupe them. Except Novell, apparently. What a bunch of goldfish.

Edited 2006-11-08 00:31

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RE[2]: Not surprising
by tomcat on Wed 8th Nov 2006 00:30 in reply to "RE: Not surprising"
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2006-01-06

Just because you hate MS doesn't mean you're wrong. Plenty people have liked MS and been duped.

But in this case, he is wrong. Plus, he hates MS.

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RE[3]: Not surprising
by twenex on Wed 8th Nov 2006 00:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Not surprising"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

You can't know he's wrong unless you work at MS. And if you do work at MS: If they have changed and he is wrong, you would say it. But if they haven't and he is wrong, then you would still say "he is wrong".

I'll believe MS have changed for the better when I see it; NOT before. Once bitten, twice shy.

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RE[2]: Not surprising
by eMagius on Wed 8th Nov 2006 01:21 in reply to "RE: Not surprising"
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2005-07-06

Just because you hate MS doesn't mean you're wrong.

Just because you hate MS doesn't mean you're right.

We've seen nothing but pure fearmongering and ad hominem in these Novell/MS threads -- Microsoft is the evil empire, Novell is Judas, Linux is being crucified, anyone who wants hard evidence is a dupe or a moron, et cetera.

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RE[3]: Not surprising
by twenex on Wed 8th Nov 2006 01:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Not surprising"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Microsoft has spent 20+ years employing various anti-competitive tactics. This supposed "new face" of Microsoft is months old at best, so the jury's still out. And the FUDMeister still spinneth.

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RE[3]: Not surprising
by twenex on Wed 8th Nov 2006 01:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Not surprising"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

There isn't yet any hard evidence that Microsoft have changed. And since the "auld enemy" to use a Scots expression was using anti-competitive tactics, if they haven't changed that means this agreement is yet more deception.

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