Linked by Eugenia Loli on Wed 8th Nov 2006 00:03 UTC, submitted by sogabe
Zeta Only a few weeks after the first release of ZETA 1.21, Magnussoft has just announced some details of what can be expected from the next version of ZETA. According to the announcement, the central piece of ZETA 1.5 will be what magnussoft calls project MediaFire, a completely new application for CD and DVD burning, the long awaited multi-user capability and an upgraded SAMBA implementation.
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RE: Giddy
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 8th Nov 2006 08:30 UTC in reply to "Giddy"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

I love seeing all the "updated from Haiku" and "added fix from Haiku" in the notes from magnussoft!

Yes, Bernd and the Haiku guys are really working together at the moment, you can see it in the mailing list where they have various discussions and post new pieces of code to test.

Really good, mutual benefit, you name it.

I understand the need to release new versions of Zeta to retain interest, but it just doesn't seem like there is truly enough in that list for a "1.5" - many items listed are mainly bugfixes and updates..

You do not seem to understand how big an update multiuser is. BeOS is a single-user OS, and making the OS multiuser is a HUGE undertaking. I'd say it warrants a 2.0 designation even.

Edited 2006-11-08 08:31

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RE[2]: Giddy
by Beta on Wed 8th Nov 2006 11:04 in reply to "RE: Giddy"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

Has Bernd paid you off Thom?

As far as I see, they've taken open source code, made changes, offered binaries for testing, with a possible contribution in the future. Maybe that happens after ZETA is released, just to make sure they get some more seats...

If Bernd and ZETA want to really work with Haiku, they might want to work from the same repo for their shared code.

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RE[3]: Giddy
by Valhalla on Wed 8th Nov 2006 12:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Giddy"
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2006-01-24

Beta wrote:
-"As far as I see, they've taken open source code, made changes, offered binaries for testing, with a possible contribution in the future. Maybe that happens after ZETA is released, just to make sure they get some more seats.."

well, that's perfectly fine with the MIT licence since it allows reuse as propriety software. and the Haiku project picked that licence, so I doubt they are upset.

since Magnussoft doesn't have to contribute back, I'm just glad if they do. particularly since I believe that later when Haiku has become stable and somewhat mature, and if Magnussoft Zeta is still around, they will base Zeta on Haiku rather than r5/dano. if this happens, my hopes are that Haiku and Zeta devs will have established a good dialogue and code exchange. worst case scenario would be that Magnussoft adopts and enhances Haiku, while not contributing any of those enhancements back.

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RE[2]: Giddy
by helf on Wed 8th Nov 2006 15:00 in reply to "RE: Giddy"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

You do not seem to understand how big an update multiuser is. BeOS is a single-user OS, and making the OS multiuser is a HUGE undertaking. I'd say it warrants a 2.0 designation even.

While its a big change and probably would warrant a 2.0 version #, BeOS had the beginnings of multiuserness already in it. Just wasnt used iirc.

I hope it works well.

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RE[3]: Giddy
by Ronald Vos on Wed 8th Nov 2006 19:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Giddy"
Ronald Vos Member since:
2005-07-06

While its a big change and probably would warrant a 2.0 version #, BeOS had the beginnings of multiuserness already in it. Just wasnt used iirc.

Well partly perhaps, like fileowners, but nothing doing something with it. AFAIR, Be wanted to implement multi-user but didn't see a way to do it without breaking things. Personally, I think it should be doable with some ugly hacks, and PhosphorOS did it after all, but it does take some effort to make user's directories hidden from other users et al, and not just switch wallpapers around. I don't actually know how far it's implemented in Zeta though.

Edited 2006-11-08 19:03

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