Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Nov 2006 22:56 UTC
Novell and Ximian "Often cast as the peacemaker in free software disputes, Bruce Perens is on the warpath. When we caught up with him, he wasn't in a mood to be charitable to Novell. On Friday the Utah company, which markets the SuSE Linux distribution, revealed that it was entering into a partnership with Microsoft. Redmond would pay Novell an undisclosed sum in return for Novell recognizing Microsoft's intellectual property claims. Novell received a 'Covenant' promising that it wouldn't be sued by Microsoft."It's a case of 'Damn the people who write the software'", he told us. "Novell is in a desperate position - it has a smaller share of the market than Debian,"" he told The Register. Update: Novell responds to community's questions: here, here and here. Update 2: Havoc Pennington's take.
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r_a_trip
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2005-07-06

These are the apps I use for work because there is nothing better. Im not locked in, these are industry standard apps that i have to use.

You are not locked in, but can't use something else because of reason X. Absurdly contradictive.

There are for example programs that would allow me to make vector images under Linux, I then have the problem that my clients don't have this product or OS. Or I can't find any printing shop that has them. Either way it causes me nothing but trouble, I then maybe need an app to convert formats... naturally some data gets lost... it just not realistic to expect people to work like this.

Are you advocating that GNU/Linux apps be more like Windows apps? No, clearly not, because of this:

Linux is always trying to create clones of other apps, apps that have made markets for themselves already. This is pointles, I think.

So what is it? Clone to the last dot or go our own way? You can't have both.

I know there are similar apps to Adobe's under linux, but please have you tried them? Compared to what adobe offers, they're very primative and unrefined. Also I don't have time to learn a new programme, it's tools and icons.

So its just you giving in to your own inertia. You don't actually know that these programs are unrefined, as you don't take the time to learn how to use them. You just use what you already know and learned. As such, you will never be a market target for GNU/Linux, because you've dismissed it out of hand for something that you just know and works the way you've gotten used to.

I really do want to use linux becuase but can't at the moment.

Bzzt. The wrong way around. You can use GNU/Linux, but simply don't want to. All the reasons you've stated just tells us you've become accustomed to the MS world and you don't see a reason to change something that is already comfy.

You go for status quo.

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Coxy Member since:
2006-07-01

Try reading my post again.

'Are you advocating that GNU/Linux apps be more like Windows apps? No, clearly not, because of this:'

I would be locked in if their was an alternative, there isn't, so I'm not. Also I choose to use these apps since they are THE BEST available from everything I've tried.

'Are you advocating that GNU/Linux apps be more like Windows apps? ' I wasn't advocating anything... just read what's there, not what you want to read.

'So its just you giving in to your own inertia. You don't actually know that these programs are unrefined, as you don't take the time to learn how to use them. You just use what you already know and learned. As such, you will never be a market target for GNU/Linux, because you've dismissed it out of hand for something that you just know and works the way you've gotten used to. '

This is a stupid comment. Of course there different, they wouldn't be a different programme if they were the same! Also I don't have the time to learn new programmes, maybe you do, and if you do maybe you should try and find more clients, or get some children and see if you have more time then I to learn 5 or 6 photoshop clones. I also I don't want to spend anymore time using a computer than I have to.

'zzt. The wrong way around. You can use GNU/Linux, but simply don't want to. All the reasons you've stated just tells us you've become accustomed to the MS world and you don't see a reason to change something that is already comfy.'

I've become accustomed, yes, but because they are the standard. And no, things aren't the wrong way round, I can't use Linux, even if I want to. Again, please don't read what isn't there.

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