Paul Thurrott takes a long look at Vista. "It's hard to put Windows Vista in perspective. On the one hand, the product has been in development for over five years, which means that Vista had one of the longest development cycles in the 20+ year history of Windows. Paradoxically, Windows Vista is both revolutionary and evolutionary. While it includes modern OS features, such as a new hardware-based graphical user interface, Vista will also feel like familiar territory, for the most part, to anyone that's already familiar with Windows XP. And Mac advocates can claim, truthfully, that many of Vista's best features appeared first on Mac OS X, sometimes years ago."
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Out of all people that post on this forum I would expect that OSN staff is a bit more informed on the subject. As it is obvious from your reply, CLEARLY I am wrong.
Please provide detailed information (a link will do) on: when (if ever) has NT 3.1 operate in 64 bit (not to be confused with operated ON a 64 bit processor)!!! I'll gladly provide you with detailed info that Linux has worked as a 64 bit operating system if you need them.
Here is an article from our friend le Parrot:
"Microsoft pledged today to deliver a 64-bit version of Windows NT on the Digital Alpha CPU. The product is due in beta by the end of the year. The Alpha version of NT 5.0 will support 64-bit Very Large Memory (VLM), which allows more information to be processed simultaneously, speeds access to information in the system's RAM, and is especially useful for any database and high transaction volume work."
Date :
March 14, 1997
NOTE: NT 5.0
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"Windows NT 3.1 was released for Intel x86 PC compatible, DEC Alpha, and ARC-compliant MIPS platforms. Windows NT 3.51 added support for the PowerPC processor in 1995, specifically PReP-compliant systems such as the IBM Power Series desktops/laptops and Motorola PowerStack series."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT
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//NT is just as portable as Linux.//
Not correct.
Linux has been ported to more architectures than any other OS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
"Linux has been more widely ported to different computing platforms than any other operating system. It is used in devices ranging from supercomputers to mobile phones, and is gaining popularity in the personal computer market."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_%28kernel%29#Portability
"Linux supports the following machine architectures:
* Argonaut RISC Core (ARC) from ARC International
* ARM architecture:
o Acorn Archimedes and Risc PC series
o DEC StrongARM
o Marvel (formerly Intel) XScale
o Sharp Zaurus
o iPAQ
o Palm, Inc.'s Tungsten Handheld[14]
o Gamepark Holdings' GP2X
o Nokia 770 Internet Tablet
o gumstix
* Atmel AVR32
* Axis Communications' ETRAX CRIS
* Fujitsu FR-V
* Alpha architecture:
o DEC Alpha
o Samsung Alpha CPU.
* Hewlett-Packard's PA-RISC family
* H8 architecture from Renesas Technology, formerly Hitachi.
o H8/300
o H8/500
* Intel IA-64 Itanium, Itanium II.
* IBM's S/390 (31-bit)
* IBM's zSeries and System z9 mainframes (64-bit)
* x86 architecture:
o 8086, 8088, 80186, 80188 and 80286 CPUs is under development[15]
o Intel 80386, 80486, and their AMD, Cyrix, Texas Instruments and IBM variants
o The entire Pentium series
o AMD 5x86, K5, K6, Athlon (all 32-bit versions), Duron, Sempron
o x86-64: AMD's 64-bit processor architecture now known as AMD64 or EM64T (Intel); supported by the Athlon 64, Opteron and Intel Core 2 processors, among others
o Cyrix 5x86, 6x86 (M1), 6x86MX and MediaGX (National/AMD Geode) series
o VIA Technologies Eden (Samuel II), VIA C3, and VIA C7 processors
o Microsoft's Xbox (Pentium III processor), through the Xbox Linux project
o SGI Visual Workstation (Pentium II/III processor(s) with SGI chipset)
o Sun Microsystem x86 Workstation (80386 and 80486).
* M32R from Mitsubishi.
* MIPS architecture:
o Jazz
o Cobalt Qube, Cobalt RaQ
o DECstation
o Godson (MIPS-like), Godson II, and Godson IIE from BLX IC Design Ltd (China).
o Some PlayStation 2 models, through the PS2 Linux project
* Freescale (formerly Motorola) 68K architecture (68020, 68030, 68040, 68060):
o Some Amigas: A1200, A2500, A3000, A4000
o Apple Macintosh II, LC, Quadra, Centris and early Performa series
o Sun Microsystems 3-series workstations (experimental, uses Sun-3 MMU) [citation needed]
* NEC v850e[citation needed]
* Power Architecture:
o IBM Servers.
* PowerPC architecture:
o IBM's CELL
o Most newer Apple Computers (all PCI-based Power Macintoshes, limited support for the older NuBus Power Macs)
o Clones of the PCI Power Mac marketed by Power Computing, UMAX and Motorola
o Amigas upgraded with a "Power-UP" card (such as the Blizzard or CyberStorm)
o AmigaOne motherboard from Eyetech Group Ltd (UK)
o Samantha from Soft3 (Italy).
o Amy'05 PowerPC motherboard from Troika.
o IBM RS/6000, iSeries and pSeries systems
o Pegasos I and II boards from Genesi.
o Nintendo GameCube, through Gamecube Linux
o Project BlackDog from Realm Systems, Inc.
o Sony Playstation 3 (PS3).
o V-Dragon CPU from Culturecom.
o Virtex II Pro Field Programmable Array (FPGA) from Xilinx with PowerPC cores.
* SPARC:
o Sun-4 series[citation needed]
o SPARCstation/SPARCserver[citation needed]
o Sun Ultra series
o Sun Blade
o Sun Fire
o Clones made by the Tatung Company and others[citation needed]
* SuperH"
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Not correct.
Linux has been ported to more architectures than any other OS.
Whether something is portable or not has nothing to do with to how many platforms it is actually ported; Linux is ported to more paltforms not because it is nescesrally more portable, but just because you don't have to have a company's approval to do so.
NT is a hybrid kernel, and therefore it is probably even *more* portable than the monolithic architecture of Linux.
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You do know that NT also has been running on ALPHA for a long time, right? In fact, even earlier than Linux-- NT 3.1 was released in 1993. NT also runs on SPARC, MIPS, Clipper, and probably some more I'm forgetting at the moment
The difference being, as always, that when done in Linux, it's done right, not on Windows. Which is showed by the fact that the NT you talk about on Sparc, was 32 bit only, while it was 64 bit with Linux.
Forget the myth. NT is just as portable as Linux
Surely not. Thinking that an OS that have pain coming to a stable result on 32 bit Sparc is as portable as another that come as featureful on 64 bit Sparc is strange at best. Claiming that NT is as portable as Linux is even more bizarre, especially when it was never 64 bits, and doesn't work on embedded (like Linux) systems.
It's just that there is no financial interest into running NT on uncommon platforms. However, I am sure that if a big customer wants a SPARC build of Windows Server 2003, they'd get it
And if we want Windows NT on a phone ? You know Linux does this, do you ?
AFAIK you have to change to WinCE for embedded. So much for the so portable Windows NT ...
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You do know that NT also has been running on ALPHA for a long time, right? In fact, even earlier than Linux-- NT 3.1 was released in 1993. NT also runs on SPARC, MIPS, Clipper, and probably some more I'm forgetting at the moment.
Forget the myth. NT is just as portable as Linux. It's just that there is no financial interest into running NT on uncommon platforms. However, I am sure that if a big customer wants a SPARC build of Windows Server 2003, they'd get it.