Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Nov 2006 08:46 UTC, submitted by someone
Java The cat is out of the bag: Java will be released under the GPL. Joshua Marinacci writes: "I think it makes a lot of sense because it protects Sun's interest in preventing forks and also the community's interest in knowing that Java will forever be available in the public sphere. The GPL has always provided an option to fork just in case someone takes the code in a bad direction. Historically having this option available ensures that it never needs to actually be used, letting the community grow and thrive."
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Aha
by Duffman on Mon 13th Nov 2006 09:21 UTC
Duffman
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2005-11-23

Now that java will be released under the GPL, where are all the linux zealots always bashing Sun ?

RE: Aha
by h-milch-mann on Mon 13th Nov 2006 09:40 in reply to "Aha"
h-milch-mann Member since:
2005-10-27

They are busy bashing Novell. ;)

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RE[2]: Aha
by Rayz on Mon 13th Nov 2006 09:53 in reply to "RE: Aha"
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2006-06-24

ROFLMAO!!

I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't, but I'm going to mod you up for my first laugh of the morning!

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RE: Aha
by molnarcs on Mon 13th Nov 2006 10:10 in reply to "Aha"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Is it really necessary to lash out at the free software community everytime?

It is an irony that you mention zealots... you mean the folks who criticized SUN (or "bashed" in your terminology) because the license of JAVA was not free enough and GPL compatible? Well, they are probably opening champaignes ;) )

Stop labelling everyone who happens to like - or God forbid, be enthusiastic about - the free software movement.

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RE[2]: Aha
by sean on Mon 13th Nov 2006 14:50 in reply to "RE: Aha"
sean Member since:
2005-06-29

It is an irony that you mention zealots... you mean the folks who criticized SUN (or "bashed" in your terminology) because the license of JAVA was not free enough and GPL compatible?

He may be speaking of all the zealots that bashed Sun but not IBM over their implementation of JAVA. Now that Sun has released almost everything under a GPL/LGPL license, will those same "folks" finally "criticize" IBM for not releasing their software (like Notes client, Domino server, Websphere, etc.) under an open source license?

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RE: Aha
by sbergman27 on Mon 13th Nov 2006 14:08 in reply to "Aha"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""Now that java will be released under the GPL, where are all the linux zealots always bashing Sun ?"""

I'd say I'm still in shock. ;-)

Actually, I learned my lesson when they open sourced Solaris. I spent the better part of a year posting about how they'd never do it... that when they released anything at all it would be under one of their Community Source Look But Don't Touch licenses.

I was wrong. Some people latched onto the fact that the license was not GPL compatible, but I always felt that was really too much to expect. The fact of the matter is that CDDL is an OSS license and I commend Sun for their actions.

I care less about Java than Solaris. But releasing Java as OSS, under the GPL no less, is uber-cool and gets Sun a lot of respect from me.

I expect that we'll see less Sun bashing from here on out. Of course, it helped a lot when Scott (Flame Bait) McNealy stepped down. Not that I didn't like the guy, but he *was* a bit of a lightning rod.

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RE: Aha
by r_a_trip on Mon 13th Nov 2006 18:00 in reply to "Aha"
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2005-07-06

Now that java will be released under the GPL, where are all the linux zealots always bashing Sun ?

Hell froze over, so they are trying to come to terms with the fact that Sun isn't the big bad meanie as they all thought.

Others in the community have discovered that Sun is a little schizophrenic in their public PR, but they mean well.

Besides, as stated earlier in this thread, Novell is the current Judas.

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RE[2]: Aha
by sbergman27 on Mon 13th Nov 2006 18:47 in reply to "RE: Aha"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""Hell froze over, so they are trying to come to terms with the fact that Sun isn't the big bad meanie as they all thought.

Others in the community have discovered that Sun is a little schizophrenic in their public PR, but they mean well.

Besides, as stated earlier in this thread, Novell is the current Judas."""


You go, girl!!! ;-)

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