"Security is the lens through which I always view products like Windows Vista, and in that view it looks good. But there is a bigger picture with Vista for the industry: It's really, really different from previous versions. At many levels it requires a different approach." The Inq took a look at Vista RTM, and they find: "Suffice to say we're impressed. Vista has come a significantly long way since the RC2 build. It's polished, speedy, and looks good on the eye."
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Member since:2005-11-10
If you want me to understand you're talking about NT4, you must write NT4. If not I'll read it as any version of NT.
Oh, I'm sure you will. That's why I said you're smartass. Now you're just proving it.
Take a look here and you'll see that Vista has very little new to offer:
Sure, it is a very short page 
LOL No real changes, just eye-candy, right :-)
Anyway, since Vista has nothing much to offer, I expect basically no one to upgrade. Well, i guess, we'll see in about 2-3 years from now. People said the same thing about XP vs 2000 vs NT. Businesses too. Yet..
You need to do some research. You obviously know nothing at all about OS'es, or the history of Windows. I don't think you ever tried NT4.
LOL I used NT4 Workstation to make my living as a programmer back in 90's, and I still do programming for living today (on Windows), so.. On the other hand, you're just ignorant about everything Microsoft related.
But the main functionality is unchanged, no matter what you want me to believe.
LOL Since when the *main* functionality should be changed anyway? Huh?? Not sure that anyone wants that.
Man, you're just plain ignorant about Vista, just like about XP SP2. Mind you, this is what you said:
This is how to get Vista. Take XP, replace the Windows Layout with OS X Layout - and woooh... we have Vista
So long, you can continue to be ignorant as long as it pleases you..
Edited 2006-11-14 17:05
Member since:2005-10-02
You are deliberately misquoting me, and the debate ends here, and misrepresenting my views on Windows and Microsoft.
If you read my post, you'd know that I've praised Microsoft on several occasions and bashed Gnome/KDE at the same time.
I have also praised Gnome/KDE and bashed Microsoft.
The fact you don't grasp the desktop metaphor says a lot about your lack of deeper understanding.
BTW: Being a VB-"coder" doesn't make you a developer. Au contraire!
Member since:2005-06-29
Anyway, since Vista has nothing much to offer, I expect basically no one to upgrade. Well, i guess, we'll see in about 2-3 years from now. People said the same thing about XP vs 2000 vs NT. Businesses too. Yet..
Yet...Microsoft had more trouble getting people to upgrade to XP than any of their previous systems.
Trouble was, those people were largely right about XP. It wasn't a big deal over Win2k. I won't say the same thing about Vista over XP though.
Member since:2005-10-02
Member since:2006-07-04
"It is _not_ my message. You claimed I wrote "everything". I didn't - I wrote "most". And most of it _is_ available in NT4."
Most of what's in OSX 10.4 is in OSX 10.0, yet OSX 10.4 was hailed as the Second Coming.
At slashdot, new threads pop up heralding every new 0.0.1 build of the Linux kernel, which have nothing new except tweaks and fixes.
So why shouldn't people look forward to the new Vista features as well?
Member since:2005-10-02
Well, I don't care what people do on /.
I don't come there. And honestly I couldn't care less about minor revisions of the Linux kernel. I watch them to see if something is added that I really really need, but my kernel is from somewhere around May 2005, so it's probably very outdated by now (I pretty much stick with GLSA-based updates).
People can look forward to anything they want. But I want the same right to tell them that they are hunting something they already have. I despise that kind of hype, and prefer sticking to cold facts. They work - hype doesn't.
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2005-10-02
Yes, most of what is available in Vista has been available since NT4. That's a fact. However, you claimed my message was: "Yeah right, people & businesses, dump your Windows XPs, 2000s, and don't even think of Vista --- everything is already available under NT 4 :-)"
It is _not_ my message. You claimed I wrote "everything". I didn't - I wrote "most". And most of it _is_ available in NT4.
If you don't want to be smartassed, then don't act like a smartass. It'll come back to haunt you. If you want me to understand you're talking about NT4, you must write NT4. If not I'll read it as any version of NT.
You need to do some research. You obviously know nothing at all about OS'es, or the history of Windows. I don't think you ever tried NT4. Fact is that most of the functionality in Vista is available in NT4. Incl. indexing, .eml and separate contacts. Of course the applications are newer in Vista than in NT4, but that is to be expected with 11 years difference. But the main functionality is unchanged, no matter what you want me to believe.
Take a look here and you'll see that Vista has very little new to offer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista