Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Nov 2006 13:03 UTC, submitted by Think4 Myself
GNU, GPL, Open Source The potentially historic Microsoft-Novell pact announced last week, whereby Microsoft would grant patent peace to users of Novell's Suse Linux software in exchange for royalty payments paid by Novell to Microsoft, will be dead by mid-March, promises Eben Moglen, the general counsel of the Free Software Foundation. The FSF controls the license that governs the distribution of Linux and many other key forms of free and open-source software. "It will surely violate GPL version 3," said Moglen, referring to the forthcoming version. "GPL version 3 will be adjusted so the effect of the current deal is that Microsoft will by giving away access to the very patents Microsoft is trying to assert."
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Nobody cares except the hippies
by Don Grayson on Fri 17th Nov 2006 17:29 UTC
Don Grayson
Member since:
2006-01-01

GPLv3??? Linus is against it and so are the majority of the kernel developers. I haven't heard one commercial distro that's keen on the license and commercial developers who use tools like GTK aren't going to be amused if they go v3, so pretty much it's going to be confined to Debian using the GPLv3 and everybody else forking off any necessary GNU tools.

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h times nue equals e Member since:
2006-01-21

<sarcasm mode="on">
yes, those

Java using and Sun bathing [1]
Samba dancing [2]

Hippies lurking in the GPLv3 drafting commitee [3]

</sarcasm>

[1]http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/83085/suns-schwartz-hints-at-gplv3-for-...
[2]http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/29/17
[3]http://gplv3.fsf.org/discussion-committees

Ever bothered to actually look who is saying what in this discussion ?

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b3timmons Member since:
2006-08-26

GPLv3??? Linus is against it and so are the majority of the kernel developers. I haven't heard one commercial distro that's keen on the license and commercial developers who use tools like GTK aren't going to be amused if they go v3, so pretty much it's going to be confined to Debian using the GPLv3 and everybody else forking off any necessary GNU tools.

You seem hopeful. Consider some safer claims.

Linux is licensed under "GPLv2 only". Only thirty kernel developers were represented in an informal poll preferring v2 over v3. Only a minority of those could put their names on a (gratuitous) statement against v3. Are there only 59 kernel developers? Your claim about "the majority" of kernel developers is simply unsupported, a case of wishful thinking.

If Linus is so against GPLv3, please explain the following snippet from an interview he had less than two months ago, following the fallout from the release of the anti-GPL statement:

At the same time, he suggests that his opposition may have been distorted or exaggerated. "GPLv3 is not 'evil,'" he says. "It just doesn't stand up to the great licenses out there, like the GPLv2."

Your comments about commercial development simply ignore the events that have played out in the past few weeks. "Confined to Debian": how do you come up with such nonsense?

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

At the same time, he suggests that his opposition may have been distorted or exaggerated. "GPLv3 is not 'evil,'" he says. "It just doesn't stand up to the great licenses out there, like the GPLv2."

And you consider that to be a rousing endorsement of GPLv3?

I don't know how Torvalds can get more explicit than this (http://news.com.com/Torvalds+No+GPL+3+for+Linux/2100-7344_3-6031504...):

"Conversion isn't going to happen," Torvalds said in a posting to the Linux kernel mailing list. "I don't think the GPL v3 conversion is going to happen for the kernel, since I personally don't want to convert any of my code."

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sadyc Member since:
2005-11-10

GPLv3??? Linus is against it and so are the majority of the kernel developers. I haven't heard one commercial distro that's keen on the license and commercial developers who use tools like GTK aren't going to be amused if they go v3, so pretty much it's going to be confined to Debian using the GPLv3 and everybody else forking off any necessary GNU tools.

An OS is more than a kernel and high level applications/frameworks. A very important part is the toolchain and standard library (libc) that will probably both go GPLv3. The basic core utilities (including the shell) and a lot of other libraries are again another important part of a Linux OS; and they are from GNU and will go GPLv3 too.
Also consider that a lot of distributions are based on Debian, and depend on it. Why will those distributions fork all that code? They have no benefit and also are not affected by license change.
So.. the chance that there will be a major fork is small. Everybody wants to benefit from the work of the others, that's why they are in this "game" already.

Edited 2006-11-20 11:16

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