Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Nov 2006 18:59 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Games QJ.net has posted a guide on how to install Fedora Core 5 on the PlayStation 3. There are also some videos of Fedora Core 5 running on the PlayStation 3.
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Well...
by santana on Sun 19th Nov 2006 21:10 UTC
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2006-10-22

No access to 3D accelerator for now ;) The only thing preventing it is supervisor, and in time Sony could be pursuaded to give up on that.

However, I don't see why would PS3 be a "crap general purpose computer". This first distros poping out are "just" using PPC in Playstation 3, and it IS a 3.2 GHz PPC. Yes, it has just cca 200Mb of main memory, but it is ultrafast XDR memory. From what I've seen, Fedora5 runs pretty nicely on it (considering all of the graphichs is unaccelerated and going through framebuffer). Big plus is that every PS3 has HDD inside.

I kind of miss your point about PS3 being "crap cluster node". It should actually be a GREAT cluster node. Cell is actually made from scratch for that. Terrasoft is building supercomputer based on Cell chips as we speak.

Now, keep in mind that no Linux distro for now is actually tuned to Cell processor, and software isn't even touching SPE's. There should be 6 SPE's avaiable for guest OSes on PS3, and some really crazy stuff could be done with them, like making Mesa using 3-4 (or all 6) of them. See for example how raycasting is being done realtime using just Cell CPU.

The mere fact that PS3 HAS Linux from the first launch day gives hope that we will see some great stuff done with Linux and PS3.

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RE: Well...
by helf on Sun 19th Nov 2006 21:54 in reply to "Well..."
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

yeah, even without hardware vidoe accell, I still want to use one for a general purpose PC. it'll be great. If someone can come up with a 'video driver' that uses a few of the SPEs for video work, then you could get decent performance. (someone said gf3-4 performance somewhere.. which would be plenty for me...)

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RE: Well...
by lucas on Mon 20th Nov 2006 03:41 in reply to "Well..."
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2005-07-08

No access to 3D accelerator for now ;) The only thing preventing it is supervisor, and in time Sony could be pursuaded to give up on that.
yeah, those wonderful open source drivers for ati/nvidia hardware are proof of that! the only thing stopping it now is the "supervisor"!

[/sarcasm]

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RE: Well...
by kokara4a on Mon 20th Nov 2006 09:36 in reply to "Well..."
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2005-09-16

Since there's no 3D I wonder if the VRAM can bu used as a swap device. It should be pretty damn quick and will efectively add >200MB to the main memory. Any thoughts?

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RE: Well...
by Finalzone on Tue 21st Nov 2006 20:17 in reply to "Well..."
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2005-07-06

Now, keep in mind that no Linux distro for now is actually tuned to Cell processor, and software isn't even touching SPE's. There should be 6 SPE's avaiable for guest OSes on PS3, and some really crazy stuff could be done with them, like making Mesa using 3-4 (or all 6) of them. See for example how raycasting is being done realtime using just Cell CPU.

Speaking of SPE, a patch has been submitted for future GCC 4.3. If the patch is accepted, future software will take advantage of SPE.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-November/msg0...

More video with Fedora Core 5 running on PS3
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/19/fedora-linux-up-and-running-on-p...

Edited 2006-11-21 20:20

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RE[2]: Well...
by kaiwai on Wed 22nd Nov 2006 07:31 in reply to "RE: Well..."
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2005-07-06

So, all things being equal; if the patch is accepted into 4.3 and Fedora Core 7 includes GCC 4.3 as the default compiler, along with an official release for P3, the performance *might* improve.

With that being said, Linux and the software needs more optimising - if one can play a dvd, surf the net, and do a little openoffice writing, then all good for most people out there.

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