Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Nov 2006 22:51 UTC
Linux While Microsoft may cast the Nov. 2 patent cooperation agreement it pushed on new partner Novell Inc. as a way to protect corporate users of the SUSE Linux operating system from potential lawsuits, CIOs today said they weren't worried in the first place.
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RE: It's FUD
by Marcellus on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 06:15 UTC in reply to "It's FUD "
Marcellus
Member since:
2005-08-26

Instead of continuing your pissfests about this, get the major Linux vendors and FSF to talk to MS to either get a list of infringements or get a blanket statement that MS won't sue them over any possible infringement, if there is any.

Deny all you want that there are infringements, it's highly unlikely that Linux distributions are free of any MS patents.

Now, if MS WANTED to sue, they would have done that long ago. I guess it's hard for people to understand that they don't WANT to do that.
Get an agreement or something and be done with it instead of continuing the pissfest.

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RE[2]: It's FUD
by l3v1 on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 08:53 in reply to "RE: It's FUD "
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

Deny all you want that there are infringements, it's highly unlikely that Linux distributions are free of any MS patents.

We could probably find one or two. But thing is, we could easily strip some or most of them out and live with it and let MS loose every possible grip they eventually might think they had, and on the other hand, we could probably also identify some parts in MS products that could be questionable. Probably nobody wants a patent war here, the tactic is probably to implant some amount of doubt and try to squeeze the rein a bit to show who's the gang leader here, and eventually grab some money.

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As long as it exposes Microsoft's FUD
by robilad on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 12:54 in reply to "RE: It's FUD "
robilad Member since:
2006-01-02

I'm all for continuing it.

Nothing says 'we hate our customers' like threatening to sue them like Ballmer repeatedly did in the last weeks.

Microsoft's worst enemy is Microsoft's hubris. We should keep suppling them with as much rope as they need to hang themselves.

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RE[2]: It's FUD
by gustl on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 14:58 in reply to "RE: It's FUD "
gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

Well, I know that such an agreement would have to look like: Redhat, IBM, OSDL, ... agree they will not sue Microsoft or their customers for patent infringement.

In turn, Microsoft agrees to not sue any distributor or user of FOSS for distributing or using said FOSS.

The FSF and many others would definitely agree to such a contract, but Microsoft will not, because everyone else could still sue THEM.

Microsoft does not enter into contracts which leave them at a slight disadvantage. Microsoft also does not trust someone, they are a sad lot.

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RE[2]: It's FUD
by dylansmrjones on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 16:55 in reply to "RE: It's FUD "
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Well, there are no infringements in Denmark ;)

Not only have we Free Speech - we have also Free Software ;)

(However, we don't have fireproof embassies).

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