Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 22:07 UTC, submitted by Philipp Esselbach
SuSE, openSUSE openSUSE 10.2 RC1 has been released: "I'm glad to announce Release Candidate 1 of openSUSE 10.2 codename Basilisk Lizard. It contains a large number of enhancements and updates done by the open source community and Novell's development teams. Screenshot walkthrough here.
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by XBit on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 22:31 UTC in reply to "Download now..."
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2006-11-23

And the difference between openSUSE and SLED (SUSE) is...

Why are you people trashing openSUSE's name??? Yes, they are sponsored by Novell. So what. If RedHat would sign the same agreement with MS would you trash Fedora's name also?

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RE[2]: Download now...
by h3rman on Thu 23rd Nov 2006 23:58 in reply to "RE: Download now..."
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2006-08-09

If RedHat would sign the same agreement with MS would you trash Fedora's name also?

They never will.

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by Googlesaurus on Fri 24th Nov 2006 07:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Download now..."
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2005-10-19

If RedHat would sign the same agreement with MS would you trash Fedora's name also?

They never will.

Never say "never", when dealing with software, patents, or politics.

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RE[2]: Download now...
by segedunum on Fri 24th Nov 2006 00:09 in reply to "RE: Download now..."
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2005-07-06

And the difference between openSUSE and SLED (SUSE) is...

Virtually nothing, apart from the 'Enterprise' badge which Novell slaps on SLED to try and sell it for a grossly inflated fee. Bring back Suse Linux Professional, that's what I say. Part of the justification for that enterprise tag and that grossly inflated fee is that you are supposedly indemnified. That's all Novell have to sell it, and that's the point.

Why are you people trashing openSUSE's name??? Yes, they are sponsored by Novell.

OpenSuse isn't just sponsored by Novell. It is run by them.

If RedHat would sign the same agreement with MS would you trash Fedora's name also?

Probably, yes, because people don't know where they would stand with it. Fortunately, Red Hat isn't that stupid. At the moment, Novell, whether they mean it or not, is saying that you are only safe if you buy Novell and Suse Enterprise products. OpenSuse is a hobby project, but don't use it for anything else.

It is just that distinction between the enterprise world and the open source world that Microsoft wants to create, which Novell is helping them to do, and it isn't helping OpenSuse or its contributors - Suse Linux Enterprise's feeder project.

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RE[3]: Download now...
by IanSVT on Fri 24th Nov 2006 03:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Download now..."
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2005-07-06

Virtually nothing, apart from the 'Enterprise' badge which Novell slaps on SLED to try and sell it for a grossly inflated fee.

Gossly inflated fee to who, someone trying to use it on their play machine? Yeah maybe.

Here's some perspective from the other side. I can buy a license for SLED at $.50, compared to $20 per desktop of Windows. I can get Novell support for SLED, can't for openSuse. I can run the Novell client on SLED, not openSuse. I can run the cross platform groupwise client on SLED, not openSuse(at least it's not supported). I can tie the workstation login to authenticate against eDirectory easily with SLED, not with openSuse. I'm sure there's more in SLED that fits my environment far more than openSuse(and Ubuntu, Fedora, Slack, and Gentoo for that matter). The point is, until you're actually in an "enterprise" environment, don't crap over something that is geared towards organizational networks and not mom's computer.

I'm typing this on my laptop at home running Ubuntu, because I don't need an enterprise distribution at home. Work on the other hand...

Edited 2006-11-24 03:53

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RE[2]: Download now...
by cmost on Fri 24th Nov 2006 01:42 in reply to "RE: Download now..."
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2006-07-16

"Why are you people trashing openSUSE's name??? Yes, they are sponsored by Novell. So what. If RedHat would sign the same agreement with MS would you trash Fedora's name also?"

Yes!

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by twenex on Fri 24th Nov 2006 05:30 in reply to "RE: Download now..."
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2006-04-21

If RedHat would sign the same agreement with MS would you trash Fedora's name also?

Unless the Fedora team distanced themselves from RedHat 100%, yes.

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