Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Nov 2006 13:52 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces The OLPC's interface is simply way too complicated. I just read through the human interface guidelines for the project; and by god, I got lost after only a few paragraphs. How are kids supposed to learn all this? Read on for my thoughts.
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dcbw
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2006-08-31

Again, what presumes that Gnome, KDE, Windows, and OS X are God's Gift to Earth and that they are the only "right" way to go? You seem to presume a linear progression that always ends up at Windows/etc as the only possible endpoint. As for "help them move ahead" is pretty much bigotry, presuming that what you've got offers so much more value to everybody that anything that's _not_ like what you've got is useless. There are other ways of doing things. And it's not outlandish to presume that because 10 million kids might grow up using something _other_ than Windows, that they also might spend their adult lives using something _other_ than Windows.

Furthermore, the task here is not to teach them Windows or teach them a "normal"/"western"-derived computing paradigm. It's not to prepare children to grow up and work in a call center (which many times use just web apps anyway). It's to _teach_ them, period. But not about WIMP, that's shortsighted. To teach literacy, mathematics, culture, language, communication, etc.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

"Again, what presumes that Gnome, KDE, Windows, and OS X are God's Gift to Earth and that they are the only "right" way to go"

Are you thick? I did not say they are the right way to go, I said they are using the most prevalent UI paradigm. Regardless of the flaws, Gnome/KDE/Windows/OS X use the same basic design, and that design is used by the VAST majority of computer interfaces on the planet. Therefore, by forcing a different UI convention on the target group for this laptop, they will grow up using a different paradigm then the other 99.9% of the world, and that would leave them at a disadvantage.

" As for "help them move ahead" is pretty much bigotry, presuming that what you've got offers so much more value to everybody that anything that's _not_ like what you've got is useless"

WTF? It's not bigotry, it's common sense, I want everybody to succeed, so the playing field should be level for EVERYBODY, regardless of the flaws, the current UI design is what everybody uses, and if they have to relearn how to use a GUI, because they were used as guinea pigs to test a new UI design, then they lose, compared to the rest of the world, as they will have to take time to get to speed on the conventions the rest of the world uses. It's not bigotry, it's the opposite.

"Furthermore, the task here is not to teach them Windows or teach them a "normal"/"western"-derived computing paradigm. It's not to prepare children to grow up and work in a call center (which many times use just web apps anyway). It's to _teach_ them, period. But not about WIMP, that's shortsighted. To teach literacy, mathematics, culture, language, communication, etc"

Considering computer skills are very important for kids today to learn, that entire paragraph is useless. They have to learn to use a computer, as well as learn to do math, learn geography, chemistry, what have you. To not to teach them to use standard GUI interfaces is shortsighted, if something better comes along, it should be available by choice, not fiat.

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