Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Nov 2006 22:51 UTC
Novell and Ximian Novell on Nov. 30 announced its latest NetWare upgrade operating system, the Linux-powered Novell Open Enterprise Server 2. OES, which will be based on Novell's SLES 10, is designed to be a drop-in replacement for Novell NetWare servers, and a direct competitor to Microsoft's Server 2003.
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RE[3]: There's that linux hater!
by gilboa on Fri 1st Dec 2006 15:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: There's that linux hater!"
gilboa
Member since:
2005-07-06

You seems to ignore three things.
A. If you look back, you'll find that most of MS' 'close' partner's were either bought my MS or killed by it. Just look at the recent McAfee/Symantec vs. Microsoft Adware-removal-tool and the Vista-kernel-API controversies and you'll understand what I mean. (BTW, I work for a close MS partner. Only God will help us if MS decides to re-evaluate our partnership...)

B. Novel writes a very small part of the software it distribute - much less then RedHat (which has many hands in kernel, gcc, gnome, etc). Team up with Microsoft to kill RedHat and you'll end-up screwing yourself.

C. If MS start suing world+dog over IP infringement (Using the Novel deal as a proof) it's will either kill the OSS movement (If MS wins) or alienate the OSS community (If MS loses). In both cases Novel's flag-ship product will be damaged, if not killed.

Ignoring for a second the Novel + Microsoft vs. OSS/GPL controversy, Novel chose a short term gain (or money) that may kill them in the long term. There's a name for doing just that: Being a short-sighted idiot. (Excuse my language) *

- Gilboa
* Though Novel execs might be pulling a SCO - read: teaming up with MS to kick the stock price up and bail out before all hell breaks loose. In this case Novel execs are not idiots - just greedy bustards.

Edited 2006-12-01 15:54

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IanSVT Member since:
2005-07-06

B. Novel writes a very small part of the software it distribute - much less then RedHat (which has many hands in kernel, gcc, gnome, etc). Team up with Microsoft to kill RedHat and you'll end-up screwing yourself.

Are you talking about open source code? If so, how to you quantify that? If you're talking about software in general, take a look at Novell's product line compared to Red Hat's, and tell me how Red Hat would actually come close to any of it aside from RHEL/SLES basic offerings.

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gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

"Are you talking about open source code? If so, how to you quantify that? If you're talking about software in general, take a look at Novell's product line compared to Red Hat's, and tell me how Red Hat would actually come close to any of it aside from RHEL/SLES basic offerings."

This answer should be marked "off-topic-to-the-point-of-trolling".
Not because it's wrong (or right.) but because it's completely irrelevant.
From a page long answer you took -one- line and based your answer around it. (Ignoring everything else)

So my question to you is: Does it matter?

Lets say I was dead wrong and SUSE contributes 5 times the code RH does. Can you deny the fact the RH programmers contribute huge amounts of code to the OSS community? Can you deny the fact that by helping MS kill RH, Novel may essentially deliver a deadly blow to the GNU/Linux community (or even the OSS ones), and in turn, help MS kill their own flag ship project?

Did you even try to deny any of my points above?
As you didn't try to argue the point(s), I'll assume that you either agree with the above, or has no solid argument to counter my claims - either of which makes your post nothing more then an inflammatory off topic comment designed to divert the discussion into a RH vs. Novel flame war. In short, Troll.

- Gilboa
P.S. Shame on the people who mod'ed your post up. People keep on claiming that they hate (off-topic) flame wars and zealots, and yet they encourage them every chance they have.

Edited 2006-12-01 22:22

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