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RE: Sore points: UAC & Aero
by NotParker on Mon 4th Dec 2006 17:48 UTC in reply to "Sore points: UAC & Aero"
NotParker
Member since:
2006-06-01

If opening a terminal and becoming root* to manipulate a file the user has no rights to is too hard for the user in question, i wonder what's the user's business to manipulate this file in the first place?

Thats what many of say ... the person has no business using Linux. Its not friendly for the average home or corporate user. And we can't let them all run as Admin all the time.

Thats what UAC is for ... and Active Directory and Group Policy and a lot more.

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netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

Thats what UAC is for ... and Active Directory and Group Policy and a lot more.

Active Directory has nothing todo with local admin access.I can pull out the utp cable and still login and gain admin access locally.

Thats what many of say ... the person has no business using Linux.

No you're twisting what has been said earlier.Often admin access shouldn't be necessary which is something completely different.

And we can't let them all run as Admin all the time.

Untill recently that is the case i'm glad you mentioned it.Otherwise XP home,windows200,w95/86,3.11.. all ran with admin or system rights.

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NotParker Member since:
2006-06-01

Active Directory has nothing todo with local admin access.I can pull out the utp cable and still login and gain admin access locally.

My organization, and most others, do not give out the local admin account to normal users. That would defeat the purpose of having them log in with reduced privledges.

Untill recently that is the case i'm glad you mentioned it.Otherwise XP home,windows200,w95/86,3.11.. all ran with admin or system rights.

Not in my organization. When we rolled out XP, they were all made "Power Users" and none were given local admin access.

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B. Janssen Member since:
2006-10-11

NotParker:
Thats what many of say ... the person has no business using Linux. Its not friendly for the average home or corporate user. And we can't let them all run as Admin all the time.

Thats what UAC is for ... and Active Directory and Group Policy and a lot more.


That's not what i said. I said that a user who doesn't know how to access off-limits files has probably no business to manipulate them. This holds for any operating system, regardless if it's MS Windows or GNU/Linux.

With that being clarified, i understand the convenience argument for home users, who by default are their own administrators. Since convenient access is often a trade-off for security, witness MS Windows XP, the actual goal shouldn't be to make escalating rights easier but less frequent. All operating systems i know that are targeted at home users have much to do on this front, including MS Vista. But i digress.

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