Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Dec 2006 22:26 UTC
Novell and Ximian The first fruit of the recently announced Novell/Microsoft interoperability agreement arrived on Dec. 4, with Novell's announcement that its version of the OpenOffice productivity suite will now support the Microsoft Office Open XML format. The release candidate of Novell's modified version of OpenOffice.org 2.02 is now available for Windows for free download by registered Novell users.
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hal2k1
Member since:
2005-11-11

//OpenXML isn't cross platform//

Well, it isn't. Not fully. OpenXML still includes myriad dependencies on Windows platforms, so that OpenXML documents created in Office 2007 will not fully open properly even in this announced version of OpenOffice from Novell.

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1145

So where, pray tell, is the announcement of "Microsoft Office for Linux"?

Then, and only then, would OpenXML be fully cross-platform.

Until we see that offering, then using ODF format is still by far & away the better option. If you want to stick with Windows, then use the soon-to-be-released plugin for ODF sponsored by the OpenDocument alliance (not the one sponsored by Microsoft, get the good one).

http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=16617&comment_id=187653

Whatever you do, do not save your documents in OpenXML format. It will cost you plenty downstream if you do.

Edited 2006-12-05 00:42

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n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

OOXML is dependent upon Windows in the same way ODF is dependent upon Windows. Both formats allow the embedding of elements that may not have a renderer for the specific platform which you're using. The solution in both cases is obvious -- if portability is your main concern, don't include non-portable elements. If you just need to read the document, you may still do so in many cases, with the document viewer ignoring elements it can't parse.

Is there any valid challenge to OOXML's openness from someone not pushing ODF?

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hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//OOXML is dependent upon Windows in the same way ODF is dependent upon Windows. Both formats allow the embedding of elements that may not have a renderer for the specific platform which you're using. //

This is correct, but disingenious.

ODF does indeed have dependencies external to ODF itself, just as Open XML does.

The difference is, the dependencies of ODF are themselves open standards, such as PNG or SVG or ogg or SIML.

A good many of the dependencies of Open XML, however, are Microsoft proprietary and found only on Windows platforms.

//Is there any valid challenge to OOXML's openness from someone not pushing ODF?//

Yes, there is. See posts above, and this post.

Edited 2006-12-05 01:55

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b3timmons Member since:
2006-08-26

"Is there any valid challenge to OOXML's openness from someone not pushing ODF?"

I.e., "Is there any valid challenge to [rigged game]'s openness from someone not pushing [fair game]?"

The bottom line here is not this kind of chronic intellectual dishonesty of Microsoft advocacy; no, what matters here is that we must feel these insults in order to grow more backbone to fight the injustice Microsoft perpetrates.

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