Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Dec 2006 22:26 UTC
Novell and Ximian The first fruit of the recently announced Novell/Microsoft interoperability agreement arrived on Dec. 4, with Novell's announcement that its version of the OpenOffice productivity suite will now support the Microsoft Office Open XML format. The release candidate of Novell's modified version of OpenOffice.org 2.02 is now available for Windows for free download by registered Novell users.
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RE[4]: Say what you want
by GhePeU on Tue 5th Dec 2006 00:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Say what you want"
GhePeU
Member since:
2005-07-06

The article says that "Novell will release the code to integrate the Open XML format into its product as open source, and will submit it for inclusion in the OpenOffice.org project," so there's no reason to worry.

Ximian (and now Novell) provides a patched OpenOffice since at least 2003 (it's the year I first compiled openoffice-ximian), and most distros use this version, which includes, for example, the GTK+/KDE file-choosers, Crystal/Industrial icons, fontconfig support, etc. etc. IIRC, some of these improvements and many others now are part of the OpenOffice.org vanilla sources as well, but I don't know exactly which ones.

ooo-build is now used by pretty much every distribution (see http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/ooo-build/distro-configs/), and when Novell developers will put the new code in that repository, the other distros will pick the OpenXML support as well.

Edited 2006-12-05 00:51

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RE[5]: Say what you want
by hal2k1 on Tue 5th Dec 2006 00:54 in reply to "RE[4]: Say what you want"
hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//The article says that "Novell will release the code to integrate the Open XML format into its product as open source, and will submit it for inclusion in the OpenOffice.org project," so there's no reason to worry.//

Yes there is reason to worry, but it is not this aspect of the announcement that is the worry.

The worriesome bit is that OpenXML format contains dependencies on Windows platforms, and so Novell's implementation of it on Linux will necessarily be incomplete.

Documents created in OpenXML format on Windows platforms will still not be fully cross-platform portable, and end users will still be locked in to Windows platforms if they save their data in Open XML format.

That is entirely the worst outcome possible.

A far better outcome for end users would be for Windows & MS Office to support ODF fully.

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RE[6]: Say what you want
by n4cer on Tue 5th Dec 2006 01:49 in reply to "RE[5]: Say what you want"
n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

A far better outcome for end users would be for Windows & MS Office to support ODF fully.

For which end users? The 99.9% of the market that would be pissed that their documents won't move forward with full fidelity to a format that is also usable outside of Office and who couldn't continue to use features available in their product of choice because ODF can't currently support them, or the minority who just want to push a non-MS format at all costs with no consideration for data preservation and a misguided belief in ODF being a universal document format?

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RE[6]: Say what you want
by BluenoseJake on Tue 5th Dec 2006 16:19 in reply to "RE[5]: Say what you want"
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Please explain these dependencies, it's just an XML spec, how could there be any dependencies?

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