Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Dec 2006 22:26 UTC
Novell and Ximian The first fruit of the recently announced Novell/Microsoft interoperability agreement arrived on Dec. 4, with Novell's announcement that its version of the OpenOffice productivity suite will now support the Microsoft Office Open XML format. The release candidate of Novell's modified version of OpenOffice.org 2.02 is now available for Windows for free download by registered Novell users.
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n4cer
Member since:
2005-07-06

So the game is now rigged because MS has the majority of users and a format that moves those users forward without sacrificing their existing data wheras ODF has issues interoping with other ODF implementations? I see intellectual dishonesty, but it isn't eminating from me.

Do Sun/IBM have branch offices in OSNews forums now?

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b3timmons Member since:
2006-08-26

"So the game is now rigged because MS has the majority of users and a
format that moves those users forward without sacrificing their
existing data wheras ODF has issues interoping with other ODF
implementations? I see intellectual dishonesty, but it isn't eminating
from me."


It is emanating from you, however. (sorry)

Several comments have already pointed it out and will continue; in addition to the arguments already presented, Microsoft cannot escape the consequences of its monopolist status.

"Do Sun/IBM have branch offices in OSNews forums now?"

We can speculate about them, although not such a leap is needed for Microsoft, honored as a recent example in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Nowadays, Microsoft is surely more sophisticated with its "concerned citizens."

Edited 2006-12-05 03:54

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n4cer Member since:
2005-07-06

It is emanating from you, however. (sorry)
Several comments have already pointed it out and will continue; in addition to the arguments already presented, Microsoft cannot escape the consequences of its monopolist status.


Support of Microsoft itself is not a case of intellectual dishonesty. If you believe so, your position is devoid of logic, clouded in bias and breeds dishonesty due to a need to prove the MS position to be wrong in all cases.

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hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//So the game is now rigged because MS has the majority of users and a format that moves those users forward without sacrificing their existing data wheras ODF has issues interoping with other ODF implementations?//

This is a flawed arguement on so many levels.

(1) MS Office has many issues with interoperability with earlier versions of itself.
(2) "without sacrificing their existing data" - surely you jest? ROFLMAO.
(3) "ODF has issues interoping with other ODF implementations?" - minor ones, yes, but nothing like the extent that Office has issues "interoping" with earlier versions of itself, let alone "interoping" with any other Office suite or any other platform.
(4) "Interoping"? No wonder Microsoft has issues interoperating with anything else, when pro-Microsoft people can't even spell the word at issue.

Edited 2006-12-05 04:55

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TheProdigy Member since:
2006-12-05

//(3) "ODF has issues interoping with other ODF implementations?" - minor ones, yes, but nothing like the extent that Office has issues "interoping" with earlier versions of itself, let alone "interoping" with any other Office suite or any other platform. //

Issue 17/06 of german magazine c't tested ODF compatibility between OO, Abiword, Textmaker and Microsoft's plugin [1]. AFAIR opening documents created with one application in another one resulted in major issues (e.g. missing pictures, misaligned tables). So there's still lot of work to do for true "interoping".

At work I use Microsoft Office since Word 2.0, but with simple documents only. Until now I have never experienced major troubles opening older documents, sometime some small misalignments only. But as I am interested in the content and not in an exact layout reproduction this was no major concern for me.

[1] http://www.heise.de/kiosk/archiv/ct/06/17/180/
(german only, you'll have to buy this article)

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