Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 8th Dec 2006 00:15 UTC, submitted by Philipp Esselbach
Gnome GNOME 2.17.3 has been released: "This is our third development release on the road towards GNOME 2.18.0, which will be released in March 2007. You all know what you have to do now. Go download it. Go compile it. Go test it. And go hack on it, document it, translate it, fix it."
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by razor85 on Fri 8th Dec 2006 00:44 UTC
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gnome team should stop asking people to submit feature requests, i filled alot of them, only one got answered, the other ones are marked as UNCONFIRMED and my two patches never reached anyone (never got repply)....sadly from someone who loves gnome.

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by rx182 on Fri 8th Dec 2006 01:04 in reply to "bah"
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Same here.

I submitted few bugs but no one replied something useful. Some of the bugs I submitted even got "deleted" from Bugzilla (deleted as in no more trace). I followed the bug submission rules everytime and I even included screenshots.

I will never care about submitting bugs to them anymore.

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by Mitarai on Fri 8th Dec 2006 01:10 in reply to "RE: bah"
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I aggree thinks are weird in the OSS I did the same with KDE with the same results.

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by buff on Fri 8th Dec 2006 11:29 in reply to "RE: bah"
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I will never care about submitting bugs to them anymore.

Try not to take things personally in the business world. Instead of getting defensive and giving up think more positively and join IRC chats or discussion lists and become more vocal in the process. Just because you can't get exactly what you want isn't really a good reason to dismiss it all.

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by SomeGuy on Fri 8th Dec 2006 05:29 in reply to "bah"
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While I haven't submitted any patches to Gnome, my experience has been the opposite with most projects -- they're willing to help with intelligent questions, and given a good patch, often will integrate it.

Simple feature requests will usually be somewhat harder to get in, simply because there's so much work to do with other stuff, usually adding in one minor feature will just get pushed back and back and possibly forgotten. Also, often the developers are just busy and don't have time to browse bugzilla for every lamebrained feature request filed. I think the bug rates for Gnome were something near 200 per day (not sure, don't quote).

If a feature request is submitted, usually a good rationale for including the feature would need to be included, demonstrating clearly why something is an advantage ("They have it too!" or "It'd be really cool!" doesn't quite cut it).

However, the biggest tip WRT adding a feature -- pop on IRC and ask if it's actually something that's desired. Usually the devels, if they're interested, will be willing to help you polish the ideas and give you some tips and ideas on where to start and how it should be architected to keep things clean and maintainable. Talk to the developers.

Hopefully your bad experience didn't put you off contributing permanently, although I can see it being discouraging.

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by unapersson on Fri 8th Dec 2006 10:22 in reply to "RE: bah"
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Feature requests also act as a jumping off point for new developers wanting to become involved. So they can browse bugzilla, see a feature they'd like themselves and implement it.

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by kmaraas on Fri 8th Dec 2006 07:16 in reply to "bah"
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If you could mail the bugsquad or the maintainters directly asking why that's perfectly ok, but ranting anonymously in a public forum because your bug didn't get attention doesn't really help. I tried searching for anything containing romulo or razor and came up with one bug that was mysteriously closed with no comment. If that was your bug I suggest you reopen it after verifying that it's still relevant and we'll help you as best we can. Please give a pointer to the patches so we can try to get them reviewed.

That said, my bugzilla folder has ~60k unread messages so there may be other people trying to get attention too :-)

Some things *will* slip through the cracks. That's inevitable with the amount of mail the maintainers get.

Edited 2006-12-08 07:18

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