Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 9th Jul 2005 17:10 UTC
Windows "Longhorn Beta 1 is still a few weeks away from release. And Office 12 Beta 1 isn't slated to debut until this fall. But that isn't stopping Microsoft from peeling back the covers on some of the new features slated for the pair of products due to ship in the latter half of 2006."
Thread beginning with comment 1902
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[3]: Zeitgeist
by kaiwai on Sun 10th Jul 2005 03:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Zeitgeist"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

Btw, that post was from me - Safari has a habit of forgetting cookies.

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[4]: Zeitgeist
by Varg Vikernes on Sun 10th Jul 2005 03:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Zeitgeist"
Varg Vikernes Member since:
2005-07-06

Please, lets not around insinuations. The fact remains, Google statistics are based upon reading what the browser tells them; If the user has their browser setup to tell the server that the client is running Windows + IE, even though they maybe running Linux + Konqueror, then of course you'll have problems. Same goes for Opera - Opera by default is setup to be recognised by servers as IE 6/Windows.

Of course this is possible, but as I said in my previous post - how many people do you know that change their UA string? Seriously, I know none. I don't even know a single reason why you might want to do this. Opera did this because Microsoft (msn.com to be exact) was serving them a bad page. That "problem" has been long gone. Try setting your UA in Opera to Opera and browse msn.com, then tell me if there is _anything_ wrong with the site.

Statistics based on sales and web browser statistics are faulty at best; either because the browser misidentifies itself or the statistics are screwed because of the nature of the website - if it is a higly technical site, the greater the number of *NIX clients, where as if it were one dedicated to home crafts, it will have a higher frequency of users using Windows or Mac clients.

I already mentioned in the previous post that the most searched tech term on Google is 'linux' followed by 'opensource'. It would be hard to belive that non-savvy users know what linux or opensoruce is. Then in my previous, previous post I mentioned Slashdot which ran stats about browser/OS. Again, Windows users filled more than 2/3 of the site. But your statement still holds. Of course buyflowers.com will have more non-savvy users, and therefor more Windows users than kernelhacks.org but I gave an example that if since last year Linux user stats would quadruppled (4x1%) they would still be well lower then Windows 98, which is IMHO a shame, because Windows 98 is crap nowadays.

Honestly I can't think of a better way to get real (or as close as possible) browser/OS stats than looking at Google's logs.

Reply Parent Score: 1

RE[5]: Zeitgeist
by netpython on Sun 10th Jul 2005 06:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Zeitgeist"
netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

Were're the (google user agent) logs?

The Zeitgeist stats doesn't say anything but britney spears is popular and apparently a lot of people waste their time with watching TV.

Reply Parent Score: 1