Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 9th Dec 2006 23:03 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu According to Google Trends, but also according to Distrowatch, our own statistics here at OSNews and overall sense of the industry during 2006, Ubuntu has a big leap in mind share ahead of its competition (please note that we don't dare to say "market share", although we are pretty confident that it's the most used Linux desktop out there today). The second Fedora has a very small edge ahead of SuSe (while in US is a clear second), while Debian is following fourth. Mandrake+Mandriva (add both names on Google Trends and then sum the results) is clearly way below the previous four distros, but a clear 5th nonetheless. Last year Ubuntu was only a bit ahead of the other distros worldwide, but 2006 seems to have skyrocketed the distribution in the people's minds and computers.
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mmm
by gfx1 on Sun 10th Dec 2006 12:09 UTC
gfx1
Member since:
2006-01-20

I tried it again yesterday the 6.10 desktop version and it still barfs at my ati radeon x800 videocard.
In the past I spend some time to figure it out and get it working but nowadays I just can't be bothered anymore.
It would be nice if all the waisted effort that is spend on the different linux distros was brought together and focussed to get some underlaying faults corrected, like getting rid of the nineteenseventies xwindows display model...

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RE: mmm
by archiesteel on Sun 10th Dec 2006 17:07 in reply to "mmm"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Your criticism misses the mark, I'm afraid. The problem is not X Windows and its "display model"...the problem in your case is the actual graphics driver. The open-source ATI drivers are not very good, and ATI has yet to open-source its proprietary drivers. This means that these cannot easily be distributed along with the LiveCDs for installation.

Fortunately, I belive that as of Feisty Fawn there will be a way to install and configure ATI and NVIDIA cards right from the original setup. I know it's being discussed, anyway.

In any case, this has nothing to do with the X Windows display model, which is an excellent model BTW.

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RE[2]: mmm
by arielb on Sun 10th Dec 2006 21:28 in reply to "RE: mmm"
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2006-11-15

"Your criticism misses the mark, I'm afraid. The problem is not X Windows and its "display model"...the problem in your case is the actual graphics driver. The open-source ATI drivers are not very good, and ATI has yet to open-source its proprietary drivers. This means that these cannot easily be distributed along with the LiveCDs for installation. "

That's why it will fail to get Windows users. Sorry. First impressions count and people shouldn't have to look for good drivers.

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RE: mmm
by twenex on Sun 10th Dec 2006 20:25 in reply to "mmm"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

It would be nice if all the waisted effort that is spend on the different linux distros was brought together and focussed to get some underlaying faults corrected, like getting rid of the nineteenseventies xwindows display model...

If all the "wasted effort" that is spent on the different distros were "brought together and focussed to get some underlying faults corrected...", Linux would grind to a halt, not least because of arguments over which Window manager to include, which scheduling algorithm to use, whether to accept binary blobs, etc. Centralised models only work when there is a Boss to say "We're doing this; we're NOT doing that". Decentralised models like Linux work because of consensus.

Correcting "underlying faults" in the X Window System (please don't say "X windows") is the job of the X.org team; correcting underlying faults in driver support is the job of the kernel team, etc. And the fact that Linux can run w/o the X Window System (which is what I presume you mean by "seventies display model") is largely responsible for its stability as a desktop.

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