Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Dec 2006 18:35 UTC, submitted by Patrik Buckau
Features, Office "OpenOffice.org 2.1 is recommend for all users, as it represents a significant improvement over all previous versions. Among other things: multiple monitor support for Impress; improved Calc HTML export; enhanced Access support for Base; even more languages; automatic notification of updates."
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RE[3]: As RPMs
by WorknMan on Tue 12th Dec 2006 22:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: As RPMs"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

If you just wait a week or two for your distro to package it for you, then everything is extremely pain-free. OTOH, if you like living on the edge and downloading software right off the internet then it can be quite interesting, sometimes.

So a new version of something comes out, I have to wait 2 weeks for my distro to package it for me? What if they don't? And why is downloading software right off the internet considered to be 'living on the edge'? I do it all the time. Off course, I'm not using Linux either ;)

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RE[4]: As RPMs
by RenatoRam on Tue 12th Dec 2006 22:58 in reply to "RE[3]: As RPMs"
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2005-11-14

If your distro does not package an application, file a bug. If that does not work, change distro.

Downloading stuff from the internet *in linux* means you are downloading software not tested for your distro: that's what a distribution is for.

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RE[4]: As RPMs
by smitty on Tue 12th Dec 2006 23:11 in reply to "RE[3]: As RPMs"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

And why is downloading software right off the internet considered to be 'living on the edge'? I do it all the time.

I call it that because it is software that hasn't been QA'd by your distro/OS maker, which means it might not be secure and might not have a lot of the unofficial patches distros make to fix bugs and make it more integrated. Also, if you just wait a couple of days it is done for you so there really isn't any need to get the bleeding edge version that was just released today.

So a new version of something comes out, I have to wait 2 weeks for my distro to package it for me? What if they don't?

Then you are using a pretty crappy distro, to be brutally honest. Either that or you are using something like Slackware and have chosen not to use a package manager. Or you're talking about software that can't legally be distributed by the distros, which does suck, but luckily there really isn't a whole lot of that in Linux.

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RE[5]: As RPMs
by RawMustard on Wed 13th Dec 2006 03:13 in reply to "RE[4]: As RPMs"
RawMustard Member since:
2005-10-10

This post gets a 4 rating, so that must mean Ubuntu is a pretty crapy distro? I say this because to get OpenOffice 2.1, Ubuntu users are going to have to wait till the next version after edgy which is about 5 months away!

Linux needs a way to upgrade programs other than waiting for their distro masters to feed it to them!

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RE[5]: As RPMs
by shapeshifter on Wed 13th Dec 2006 12:25 in reply to "RE[4]: As RPMs"
shapeshifter Member since:
2006-09-19

I call it that because it is software that hasn't been QA'd by your distro/OS maker, which means it might not be secure and might not have a lot of the unofficial patches distros make to fix bugs and make it more integrated. Also, if you just wait a couple of days it is done for you so there really isn't any need to get the bleeding edge version that was just released today.

You're full of it. And I'll call you on it too!
QA'd by a distro? Are you serious?!
OOo is a general Linux software and is meant to be distro independent. So they should also use a distro independent packaging.
And no, I don't want my distro patching anything for me.
We've had enough of that patching shit with distros like RedHat and Mandrake and the result was that nothing would compile or install on those distros.

Either that or you are using something like Slackware and have chosen not to use a package manager.
And what do you mean by that? Are you calling Slackware a crappy distro? Many would disagree with you.
Yet Slackware neither bundles nor provides official packages for OOo. Although they are available from places like Linuxpackages.
But I prefer the official files from OOo rather then trusting packages compiled by someone else.

So yes, I'd like to see a generic installer from OOo and they realy have no valid excuse not to provide one.
Sun can do it for their Java, Adobe for Flash and Mozilla for their apps so why not OOo?

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RE[4]: As RPMs
by bornagainenguin on Tue 12th Dec 2006 23:18 in reply to "RE[3]: As RPMs"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

What are you using then? Windows?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE[4]: As RPMs
by thebluesgnr on Wed 13th Dec 2006 00:31 in reply to "RE[3]: As RPMs"
thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

So a new version of something comes out, I have to wait 2 weeks for my distro to package it for me? What if they don't? And why is downloading software right off the internet considered to be 'living on the edge'? I do it all the time. Off course, I'm not using Linux either ;)

OpenOffice.org is a core component of many GNU/Linux distributions.

If you want the latest version of Internet Explorer or Windows Media Player for your OS, you have to wait for the vendor of the OS as well. For example, Windows 2000 users are now waiting for the two I mentioned.

OO.org provides RPM packages, and if they did their jobs correctly it should work fine on any LSB-compliant system. But if you want something that was certified and tested to work on your OS, you should stick to their packages for core components of the system.

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RE[5]: As RPMs
by Doc Pain on Wed 13th Dec 2006 03:14 in reply to "RE[4]: As RPMs"
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2006-10-08

"OO.org provides RPM packages, and if they did their jobs correctly it should work fine on any LSB-compliant system. But if you want something that was certified and tested to work on your OS, you should stick to their packages for core components of the system."

You can even get the actual source from the repository and compile the latest version of OpenOffice by yourself - if you have time and space for it. :-)

But I agree, that's only an idea for those who want to do some experiments. For everyday work, the use of the precompiled and tested packages coming from your distribution vendor should be the best solution.

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RE[5]: As RPMs
by hal2k1 on Wed 13th Dec 2006 03:18 in reply to "RE[4]: As RPMs"
hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//OpenOffice.org is a core component of many GNU/Linux distributions.

...

OO.org provides RPM packages, and if they did their jobs correctly it should work fine on any LSB-compliant system. But if you want something that was certified and tested to work on your OS, you should stick to their packages for core components of the system.//

This is true.

It would be a tardy distribution indeed if it didn't have the new version of OpenOffice available from repositories within a few days. Perhpas in "extras" repositories rather than the main one, but still available.

If one's distro doesn't have this, then perhaps one should look at changing to another better-supported distro.

Edited 2006-12-13 03:19

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