Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 14th Dec 2006 08:14 UTC, submitted by teigetje
RISC OS "Gosh! I didn't realize how much discussion my original article would create. A lot of people seemed to accuse me of living in cloud cuckoo land, whereas a lot more agreed with me. I think those who disagreed have either never used RISC OS or just liked a good rant! In either case, I feel compelled to write a short follow up article clarifying some of the points I made in the original article - all of which were perfectly valid." Read the follow up article.
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OS != apps
by vinterbleg on Thu 14th Dec 2006 09:22 UTC
vinterbleg
Member since:
2005-07-11

Hey.
This guy goes on for pages on end about how RISC OS is superior because "it produces smaller graphics that are smaller in size, but better quality" and because this and that text editor is better than anything he has ever tried.

This is completely meaningless. The availability of applications determines the usefulness of an operating system, but the operating system itself is what must set itself apart from everything else. There is no reason all this other stuff couldn't be ported to any of the mainstream OS's.

Other than that, even though the comments are a bit ridiculous, I must admit that I sort of agree with the people complaining about all the articles about RISC OS on OSNews these days. I mean, OSNews is also about esoteric niche-OS's, but this is just silly. The thing about RICS OS is that nobody really cares. It is not going to become a mainstream OS, as it simply does not have the features people need and want (such as for instance multitasking, I am told).

Arguing about it is a waste of time. The only interesting thing about it is the technical curiosities, which everybody seems to ignore.

- Simon

Edited 2006-12-14 09:25

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RE: OS != apps
by RISCOSMike on Thu 14th Dec 2006 09:49 in reply to "OS != apps"
RISCOSMike Member since:
2006-09-03

Nobody realy cares do they? A user base of about 3000.

The only thing missing from RISC OS is a decent Media Player, which if Andrew Hodgkinson carries on development of his project Prism or Cineroma is released then there will be no problem.

Also the Browser, Flash, and Java problems are nearing being solved.

Please do some reasearch before making comments about an OS you know nothing about.

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RE[2]: OS != apps
by steve_s on Thu 14th Dec 2006 10:28 in reply to "RE: OS != apps"
steve_s Member since:
2006-01-16

Unfortunately I doubt that RISC OS will ever have a decent media player application.

There's two significant problems to overcome. First there's the prolific amount of codecs used for media. Secondly some codecs (such as H.264) require a powerful processor for decoding.

I find it doubtful that you'll ever find a media player on RISC OS that will be compatible with enough codecs to have people truly satisfied.

As for the likes of H.264 - my 768MB, 1.25GHz G4 eMac tends to struggle with these when they're SD resolution. H.264 tends to be used for HD material, which my Mac can't cope with.

In terms of raw computing power a top end Iyonix has less than half the ability of my eMac. I seriously doubt that it could play an H.264 video in half SD resolution at 30 fps, let alone full SD or HD.

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RE[2]: OS != apps
by vinterbleg on Thu 14th Dec 2006 13:06 in reply to "RE: OS != apps"
vinterbleg Member since:
2005-07-11

Wow. A user base of 3000.
No, I don't mean to be an assh*le, but that is really not a considerable number of people, certainly not enough to justify the recent amount of non-technical articles on the subject. RISC OS is a curiosity, and these articles have not focused on any of the subjects that I am sure are very interesting about RISC OS, only complained about how nobody uses it but should.

Then again, it isn't meant to be a critique of OSNews, which (as the name implies) covers everything OS-related, it's more a critique of the hardcore RISC OS users who seem to not understand that the world has moved on, possibly in a bad direction, but moved on nevertheless.

And "RISCOSMike"... please drop the inflammatory tone. It's not doing you any good.

- Simon

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RE: OS != apps
by somebody on Thu 14th Dec 2006 12:38 in reply to "OS != apps"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

I sort of agree with you on quantity of RISCOS news (this week) and their importance /*personally*/.

But in the end, if guy likes it and knows why he uses it... it is not up to us to understand and agree (he didn't force anyone to use RISCOS either), it is up to us to leave guy freedom to choose and express him self without beating him to a pulp for his beliefs.

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RE[2]: OS != apps
by aesiamun on Thu 14th Dec 2006 23:39 in reply to "RE: OS != apps"
aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

Fine, let him use RISCOS, but does he have to write about?

What if I write an article about why I continue to eat Munster cheese? Sure it can be ugly with it's bright orange/yellow edge, but the cheese is great. With munster I can do so much more than any other cheese too! I can melt it, you can't melt cheddar or mozerella like you can munster. In fact with munster, you can't go wrong anywhere!

Tomorrow, I'm going to write an article about the discussion about my munster article to clarify that although cheddar actually makes a much better melted cheese sandwich than munster, I'm a munster zealot so I don't care about any other type of cheese.

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