Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 14th Dec 2006 08:14 UTC, submitted by teigetje
RISC OS "Gosh! I didn't realize how much discussion my original article would create. A lot of people seemed to accuse me of living in cloud cuckoo land, whereas a lot more agreed with me. I think those who disagreed have either never used RISC OS or just liked a good rant! In either case, I feel compelled to write a short follow up article clarifying some of the points I made in the original article - all of which were perfectly valid." Read the follow up article.
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RE[2]: OS != apps
by vinterbleg on Thu 14th Dec 2006 13:06 UTC in reply to "RE: OS != apps"
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Wow. A user base of 3000.
No, I don't mean to be an assh*le, but that is really not a considerable number of people, certainly not enough to justify the recent amount of non-technical articles on the subject. RISC OS is a curiosity, and these articles have not focused on any of the subjects that I am sure are very interesting about RISC OS, only complained about how nobody uses it but should.

Then again, it isn't meant to be a critique of OSNews, which (as the name implies) covers everything OS-related, it's more a critique of the hardcore RISC OS users who seem to not understand that the world has moved on, possibly in a bad direction, but moved on nevertheless.

And "RISCOSMike"... please drop the inflammatory tone. It's not doing you any good.

- Simon

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RE[3]: OS != apps
by Kroc on Thu 14th Dec 2006 13:47 in reply to "RE[2]: OS != apps"
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There might be a user base of 3000 now, but almost every school child in the UK would have used RISC OS at some point during the 90's. This adds up to quite a lot of interest on the subject. I myself would use RISC OS if it were not for the prohibitively expensive hardware, and somewhat lack of direction at the moment.

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RE[4]: OS != apps
by flotsam on Thu 14th Dec 2006 14:13 in reply to "RE[3]: OS != apps"
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Acorn's peak was in the 1980s, with the BBC Micro. By the 1990s (when I was at what the US would term "high school"), schools had already begun to replace their BBC Micros with PCs, mainly with Nimbus machines from RM. From 1987 when the first Archimedes came out, I never saw a trace of a RISC OS-based machine. By then, Windows had already won.

I used RISC OS until shortly after Acorn imploded in 1998. It had some lovely features, but nowadays, it just looks quite dated, which is quite sad. There are still a number of compelling applications for it - thanks to the efforts of Martin Wuerthner and Peter Naulls, amongst others - but I see no real reason why I should switch back. The platform is on the decline, and it seems to be the same old people sticking with the platform until their dying days.

Where are the grand plans for RISC OS? Some (all, eventually?) of it is being open-sourced, which might lead to more development on that side. Peter Naulls (Firefox) and the Netsurf guys are doing a sterling job on the browser side and Artworks is still an outstanding vector graphics application.

And the hardware? Castle Technology are selling a three year old 600MHz Iyonix which offers less than a Mac mini. The Iyonix is nice enough, but totally overpriced for what it is. There have been few developments on the hardware side since it was originally released, save a slightly less antique graphics card.

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RE[3]: OS != apps
by arielb on Thu 14th Dec 2006 19:09 in reply to "RE[2]: OS != apps"
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3000 people is 3 times more than SkyOS or several of the other OS's we talk about.

I see the changes in the PDA world. I know I will use my sony clie tg 50 for a long time. it has a built in keyboard...I won't buy a pda without a keyboard and i don't want a phone.

I won't need to run photoshop or MS Office or even firefox on it. it does the job I need which is keep track of simple stuff, let me take notes, record and play sound.
Like riscos, the clie is also an ARM cpu and palmos doesn't have the modern OS features. so I do tend to sympathize...

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